>今日のレッズ、実力的なベストメンバーというのならともかく、確かにコンディション面では全くベストでは無かったです。それでも勝ててラッキーと言うところでしょう。天皇杯に関しては完全にリーグ戦重視でカップ戦軽視という所なのでしょうね。実質勝ち上がって行ってもJ2の戦力レベルじゃいずれJ1チームに食われるのが当然だし、タイトルを取れない試合を1試合2試合無駄に費やすよりは、あっさりと切り上げてリーグ戦を重要視するというのも仕方がないでしょうね。
>まあ私も”ベストメンバー既定”なんて無くさなければならない悪法だと思っています。
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レッズから声をあげればベストメンバー規定なんて無くなるかもしれないですし、ぜひお願いしますよ。
規定がなくなってもオジェックさんはメンバー変えないかもしれないですけどね。 (2007.10.08 09:30:48)

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ヴォルティスはFC岐阜で2-0で勝利。4回戦に進みました。
一昨年は清水、昨年は新潟、ともに力の差を見せつけられて完敗でしたが、チーム力を高めるためには絶対必要な経験なので頑張ってもらいたいですね。
関東近県なら今年も駆けつけたいと思います。

ヴォルティスは順当というか、上位のリーグに所属するクラブとして勝利という結果を残せたわけですが、なんと驚いたことにJ2の上位4クラブ札幌、ヴェルディ、京都、仙台が揃って敗退。
あくまで結果論ですが、昇格争いのために天皇杯を軽視したと言われてもおかしくないことになってしまいました。
(仙台のスタメンは確信犯に近いところもありますね。他も似たりよったりですが)


まさかベストメンバー規定はJのものだから天皇杯には適用されないとか言っちゃうんでしょうか。
まぁ結果的にJ重視になってるから、お偉い方がダメ出しをするとは思えませんが。

個人的には今のベストメンバー規定はあまりにもアホらしいと思っているので、これを機に改定、もしくは撤廃になってくれたら嬉しいんですけどね。
ベストメンバーで試合に臨むってのは、まさにその通りだと思いますけど、そのメンバーが試合の日のコンディションやモチベーションで決まるのではなく、過去の試合の出場メンバーから名前で決まるってのは本当におかしな話で。

ということで考えると、今日の大分戦のレッズは現行の規定には引っかかりませんけど、あれが今日のベストメンバーかっていうと、本当に胸を張ってそう言えるレッズサポってどのくらいいるんでしょうね。
少なくとも8/15にガンバに勝ったレッズと比べると、ゼロックス杯のレッズに近い気がしましたよ。
でも悔しいことに結果的に勝っちゃうところがレッズの強さなんですけどね。
まぁこちらも古巣に対してお偉い方がコメントすることはあり得ないでしょうけど。





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Re:ベストメンバーって??(10/07)  
ベストメンバーについては同感ですね。
仮に札幌などがベストメンバーではないとしても今年の天皇杯敗退という事実に変わりありませんので、その代償は自ら払うだけのことです。

逆にリーグ戦を捨てて天皇杯にすべてをかけるクラブが現れてもいいくらいです。特に適当に中位が確定しているクラブあたりは。 (2007.10.07 22:26:04)

Re:ベストメンバーって??(10/07)  
ちのっぴい  さん
そうなんですよね。
そのチームの現状に合ったメンバーを選ぶの
だから、部外者がああだこうだ言うのはおか
しいと思いますね。

徳島は順当だったようですね。
うらやましい限りです。 (2007.10.07 22:44:28)

シロウト2004さん  
h_heita  さん
>ベストメンバーについては同感ですね。
>仮に札幌などがベストメンバーではないとしても今年の天皇杯敗退という事実に変わりありませんので、その代償は自ら払うだけのことです。

>逆にリーグ戦を捨てて天皇杯にすべてをかけるクラブが現れてもいいくらいです。特に適当に中位が確定しているクラブあたりは。
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たしかに天皇杯にかけるクラブ、ナビ杯にかけるクラブってのがあってもいいと思いますよね。
そういう意味ではフロンターレとマリノスがナビ杯にかける思いって強そうだなぁ..
ガンバも相当な気合いで臨まないと。 (2007.10.07 23:41:44)

ちのっぴいさん  
h_heita  さん
>そうなんですよね。
>そのチームの現状に合ったメンバーを選ぶの
>だから、部外者がああだこうだ言うのはおか
>しいと思いますね。

>徳島は順当だったようですね。
>うらやましい限りです。
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順当というか、こっちもかなり苦戦しました。
水戸も最低限の結果が残せたのは良かったんじゃないでしょうか。
(J's Goalのレポートは散々な書かれっぷりでしたけど)
愛媛といい、草津といい、J2のボトム4は天皇杯で意地見せないと本当にどうしようもなくなってしまいますからね... (2007.10.07 23:43:43)

残念  
今年の川崎はかわいそうですね、チャーター飛ばしてもしんどいものはしんどいですよ。現場サイドの声も聞いてあげて欲しいなぁ、犬飼さんにいたってはほんのちょっと前までクラブ側の人間だったんだから…。 (2007.10.08 00:28:10)

Re:ベストメンバーって??(10/07)  
King-Y  さん
今日のレッズ、実力的なベストメンバーというのならともかく、確かにコンディション面では全くベストでは無かったです。それでも勝ててラッキーと言うところでしょう。天皇杯に関しては完全にリーグ戦重視でカップ戦軽視という所なのでしょうね。実質勝ち上がって行ってもJ2の戦力レベルじゃいずれJ1チームに食われるのが当然だし、タイトルを取れない試合を1試合2試合無駄に費やすよりは、あっさりと切り上げてリーグ戦を重要視するというのも仕方がないでしょうね。
まあ私も”ベストメンバー既定”なんて無くさなければならない悪法だと思っています。 (2007.10.08 00:40:25)

しゅんすけ。さん  
h_heita  さん
>Re:残念
>今年の川崎はかわいそうですね、チャーター飛ばしてもしんどいものはしんどいですよ。現場サイドの声も聞いてあげて欲しいなぁ、犬飼さんにいたってはほんのちょっと前までクラブ側の人間だったんだから…。
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チャーター便飛ばそうと時差ボケにはなりますし、中3日で試合って異常ですよね。
犬飼さんの場合、川崎が韓国でレッズがイランだったらもう少し別の考慮してたんじゃないかと思っちゃいますしねぇ
まあ川崎に政治力がなかったということなんでしょうけど (2007.10.08 09:16:19)

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