Disable constructive critism

azhua0730 · #1 May 13, 2021 18:39:20

Constructive critism is this:

someting

xx said, something
No support.

yysaid,
xx said, something
No support

I agree with yy because something else

zzsaid,
yy said,
xx said, something
No support
I agree with yy because something else

No support either.
In this case, yy, zz, and ww, the author of the last quote, are all criticizing xx. This makes xx feel bad.
Let's then assume yy posts 5 messages about xx and then invites vv, aa, bb, and cc to criticize xx, and vv invites dd, ee, and ff.
Xx gets very sad and closes the topic, xx, yy, zz, ww, vv, aa, bb, cc, dd, ee, ff, the 11 people, aren't happy.
My mom forbids it in my house.
So why can't we disable it in scratch?

NormalMaker · #2 May 13, 2021 18:48:28

So you're saying to only let people post if they support, but if they try to post a reason why something is a bad idea, they're disallowed from doing that.

scratchieguy12345678 · #3 May 13, 2021 18:51:30

No support.

The whole point of comments and the discussion forums is constructive criticism, whether it's the project or the suggestion. Constructive critisism is good because it provides specific feedback. Also, yy, zz, and ww are not actually critizing xx, they're giving feedback on what xx said. xx can use what yy, zz, and ww said to improve upon the thing he said. There's really no reason xx should be feeling bad.

Also, is this about the ultra-love thing?

Last edited by scratchieguy12345678 (May 13, 2021 18:53:31)

azhua0730 · #4 May 13, 2021 18:53:41

that's exactly what I told you not to do in post 1

9cjames1 · #5 May 13, 2021 18:54:28

NormalMaker wrote:
So you're saying to only let people post if they support, but if they try to post a reason why something is a bad idea, they're disallowed from doing that.

Yep, that's pretty much it.

scratchieguy12345678 · #6 May 13, 2021 18:55:53

Furthermore, constructive critism isn't supposed to make people feel bad. Unconstructive critism would be saying something like “Ur suggestion suks”.

scratchieguy12345678 · #7 May 13, 2021 18:59:37

azhua0730 wrote:
that's exactly what I told you not to do in post 1

You can't tell people to not support your suggestions, that's not how it works…

In this case, in the examples you provided, yy, zz, and ww are not doing constructive criticism. In fact, they're simply saying no support, which is unconstructive criticism. In reality, constructive criticism is much better than that.

ScratchCatHELLO · #8 May 13, 2021 19:00:22

azhua0730 wrote:
that's exactly what I told you not to do in post 1

what? have opinions on the suggestion?
you can't post a suggestion and think that there won't be someone who is going to dislike it.

scratchieguy12345678 · #9 May 13, 2021 19:03:58

Finally, how and why would the Scratch Team disable constructive criticism? There really is no reason to. I think you're the only one who's being offended by good feedback.

TopCode · #10 May 13, 2021 19:06:11

jeez, u missed april 1st, come back next year

skymover1239 · #11 May 13, 2021 19:23:49

All of those were examples of unconstructive criticism.

PersonA: I suggest we add a search bar to the website at the bottom of the website.

Here is a response; A example of constructive criticism.

PersonB: Why not add it to the top of site. So that way it is easy to find.

So no support because the CGs say that constructive criticism is important.

dertermenter · #12 May 13, 2021 20:05:13

Constructive Criticism is quite a big thing in comments and forum posts - it is good to say some things that could be improved - for the educational side for projects and constructive side for forums. I’m sorry but criticism will happen - but you should take it the right way and try to improve.

That being said - there is a right way of writing constructive criticism. Please report any posts which you feel are very mean

azhua0730 · #13 May 13, 2021 20:21:43

scratchieguy12345678 wrote:
No support.

The whole point of comments and the discussion forums is constructive criticism, whether it's the project or the suggestion. Constructive critisism is good because it provides specific feedback. Also, yy, zz, and ww are not actually critizing xx, they're giving feedback on what xx said. xx can use what yy, zz, and ww said to improve upon the thing he said. There's really no reason xx should be feeling bad.

Also, is this about the ultra-love thing?

Am I now infamous in the forums?

;( :'(

( D: D': DD: D;

:O :0 ;'0
Am ded meet

azhua0730 · #14 May 13, 2021 20:23:31

Excuse me, I can tolerate one or two people not supporting it, but like 12?

k7e · #15 May 13, 2021 20:26:55

azhua0730 wrote:
[ snip]
Am I now infamous in the forums?;( :'(( D: D': DD: D;:O :0 ;'0
Am ded meet

*dead meet
For the D: face, use ":ma d:“ and ”: o“ (with a lowercase ”o") for the :O or :0 face.

Legnazo · #16 May 13, 2021 20:57:14

If you do not want other users to criticize your suggestion, just don't post it. Criticism is a key necessity for people to help improve your suggestions.

Sikecon · #17 May 13, 2021 21:01:30

No support woah this feels very ironic
If we can't receive constructive criticism, how can we know if something we're doing is for the better or for the worse? We need advice, there's flaws everywhere, and that's how we improve on life everyday. We can't just force everyone on agreeing a suggestion. That's just wrong.

Austinato · #18 May 13, 2021 21:03:42

I'm not trying to dogpile here, but constructive criticism is welcome on this site, and encouraged on the Suggestions forum. People are allowed to voice their opinions on suggestions (good or bad), as long as they follow the site's rules while doing so.

Constructive criticism can also help improve suggestions or bring into light new ideas that weren't thought of before.

As for having so many people “vote” against your suggestion, it's okay. It doesn't say anything about your character. We understood what you were coming from when you thought of this suggestion, but this suggestion just isn't realistic. Don't stop here, though; feel free to offer your opinions on other suggestions on the forums.

azhua0730 · #19 May 13, 2021 21:12:17

Post on top of post on top of post…

azhua0730 wrote:

scratchieguy12345678 wrote:
No support.

The whole point of comments and the discussion forums is constructive criticism, whether it's the project or the suggestion. Constructive critisism is good because it provides specific feedback. Also, yy, zz, and ww are not actually critizing xx, they're giving feedback on what xx said. xx can use what yy, zz, and ww said to improve upon the thing he said. There's really no reason xx should be feeling bad.

Also, is this about the ultra-love thing?

Am I now infamous in the forums?;( :'(( D: D': DD: D;:O :0 ;'0
Am ded meet

Whatever it is, I can't find the close topic button.

DarthVader4Life · #20 May 13, 2021 21:12:25

Your definition of “constructive criticism” is strange to me. Posts like the examples given are unconstructive and are not allowed. However, if you see those posts from 2014 or so, don't get on your high horse or anything. By the way, an example of constructive criticism is

User wrote:
No support due to the fact that the workaround is two blocks.
forever
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Also, how do you disable something that isn't a feature?

Last edited by DarthVader4Life (May 13, 2021 21:12:58)

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