Record Wemby Sale and What's it Like Running a Card Shop with Aaron from AAMint Cards
In this episode of The Hobby Handbook, Doug breaks down the massive Wemby sale and is joined by Aaron Amarant of AAMint Cards.
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When there's such a wide breadth of it, you have to pick and choose what you're gonna invest in.
So that's the tough part of it.
But, I love it.
I personally, I'm collecting a lot of things that aren't necessarily your normal sports cards.
But there's just so much, so much IP that goes unnoticed.
I still think it's, it's one of the biggest opportunities.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to another edition of the Hobby Handbook.
Doug Plagens here with you, filling in one more time here on the Hobby Handbook.
Big thanks to the guys for trusting me with keeping the train on the tracks here.
And, again, you'll have your r- regular hosts back next week.
But, again, thanks to them for trusting me with the seat here.
And thanks to all of you for being on board with us.
Again, I'm Doug Plagens.
You can usually see me over on Nonsense on Ice, where we talk hockey and the hobby, our show presented by Upper Deck, and we have new episodes of that dropping every Tuesday.
So you can find out all the latest in the hockey collecting world over there.
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We love the interaction, and we love hearing from everybody tuned in out there, regardless of where or how you're tuned in to, this edition of the Hobby Handbook or any other great program across the Sports Cards Nonsense Media Network.
So again, lots to get to here on this edition of the Hobby Handbook.
We have a, an interview guest segment coming up here in just a few moments.
Friend of mine, great card shop down here in South Florida, AA Mint Cards.
Aaron Amarant is gonna stop by and tell us about the journey of AA Mint Cards, the growth of AA Mint Cards.
Great shop down here in South Florida.
If you ever find yourself down here, stop by.
You'll be impressed with the store.
Great selection, great feel when you walk in.
And, again, Aaron's gonna join us here in a few moments to just tell us about how it all came to be over at AA Mint Cards.
So excited for that.
Was excited for that segment here, so we're gonna get to it here in just a few moments.
That was an interview that was recorded a few days back, so we're gonna get to that here very shortly.
We've got some news items since the last time we spoke to you here on the Hobby Handbook.
That big Victor Wembanyama sale, the 23-24 Prizm Black one of one PSA 10, was a private sale brokered by Fanatics Collect, $5.11 million sale.
The biggest Victor Wembanyama card sale that there's been, per Collectibles Guru, I believe he was the one who had it, the highest previous Victor Wembanyama sale before that one was $860,000.
So just blew right by that one.
We'll see if that, investment pays off.
At the time of our recording, the Western Conference Final in the NBA, it's ongoing.
My question to you would be, if the Spurs don't win the Western Conference Championship to move on to the NBA Final, or if they do, but then they don't win the NBA Championship, do you expect there to be a cooling off on Victor Wembanyama cards?
Do you think the market'll just keep doing what it's doing moving forward?
I sort of feel like if they don't win the title, especially come national time perhaps, you might be able to get a little bit of a discount compared to what the cards are selling for right now.
And at a little bit of discount, I think I'd be taking a look at some Victor Wembanyama cards if we get to the national and we see a bit of a drop-off in the prices of some of these.
So hey, keep an eye on that.
Let me know what you think @DougPlagens again on the Twitter, X platform, @DougPlagens on Instagram as well.
But, again, it's hard to say that there would be any kind of a, an uptick in pricing if the Spurs don't win the title.
Now, if they do win the title, all bets are off.
We'll see what happens as far as the Victor Wembanyama market is concerned going into the off-season.
Folks, looking at some other items elsewhere.
The last time we spoke to you on Hobby Handbook, we were still awaiting the results of the auction for the Wayne Gretzky 79-80 O-Pee-Chee rookie card, PSA 9 with a 10 autograph grade, an in-person autograph on the card with a 10 grade on that, so a 9.0 on the 79-80 O-Pee-Chee.
The, highest graded such card with the autograph, that is.
$540,000 per Canadi- Fanatics Collect.
that was the end of the, auction there.
That's how that one ended just about, a week ago or so at the time of our recording here.
huge hockey card sale.
One of the biggest hockey card sales that there's been, and, another huge Wayne Gretzky sale.
What do you think about the Gretzky market?
Are you I'm always looking for Gretzky cards.
That's one of the players that I will always be collecting.
I'll always be shopping for Gretzky cards.
I'll always be looking at eBay.
I've got saved searches up when I go to the national.
I know I'm gonna be looking at showcases to see any Gretzky cards that might be out there.
I personally never get tired of Wayne Gretzky cards.
What about you?
Are you shopping for Gretzky stuff?
@DougPlagens again, Twitter, X, Instagram, all those different platforms.
Speaking of hockey, Upper Deck Extended series coming out very soon, June 3rd.
A first of its kind item there.
You're gonna have those debut game jersey cards that, again, are gonna be a part of Extended series.
Got the one of one version.
You've got the autographed version numbered to a player's jersey number.
Then you've got the non-autographed versions.
There are nine different players.
Checklist made up of nine of the top rookie chases in this year's products.
Again, the rookie debut jerseys.
Next edition of Nonsense on Ice, we're gonna have some more conversation and more digging into the rookie debut jersey cards.
So be sure to follow along with that on a future edition of Nonsense on Ice.
folks, I've gotta mention one other thing.
My own personal collection.
Was just telling our producer Brendan this off the air.But I've been working on an autograph set for a while, 2022 Topps Pristine Pure Power autographs out of baseball, Topps Pristine Baseball, and, I was trying to run down the last one in the set.
I needed the Mark McGwire, and it just so happened that, a few days ago at the time of our recording, one popped up on eBay, and I wasted no time.
I hammered that Buy It Now, and I'm waiting for it to come in the mail as we sit here and do the Hobby Handbook right now, and I can't wait to get the whole set together.
Now, the conundrum that I've got, the big question at this stage is it's a 21-card set, and I've gotta determine what I do with the 21 of them.
Do I grade them all?
19 of the 21 are in the Topps Pristine One Touches.
The Dave Winfield is in a top loader because that was how I got it.
The Mike Piazza is in a PSA 10 because that was how I got it.
Do I try to find the Winfield and the Piazza in the Topps Pristine One Touches, keep them like that?
Do I grade the whole set?
What would you do if you were in that situation?
Tell me.
But I was pretty pumped to find the last piece, the missing piece from the Topps Pristine Pure Power autograph set that I was trying to put together.
Finally got it, and, now it's gonna be on to choosing the next set to put together.
This was the first autograph set that I'd ever successfully put the whole thing together.
So, now I've gotta go out and find what the next one might be.
I'll always take your suggestions, ideas.
Fire them off, @DougPlegins.
Have the Ohtani, the Reggie Jackson.
Cool set because they're on-card, they're vertical.
I like vertical, signed cards.
They're on-card autographs.
There's an Ohtani in there.
There weren't any rookies in it that I was gonna have to pay hype prices for as I was shopping for them, and it's a cool player selection.
Like I said, you've got Reggie Jackson, Dave Winfield, Edgar Martinez, so you've got some Hall of Famers mixed in.
You've got some cool names from what I would consider to be my formative years following baseball; Cecil Fielder, Mo Vaughn, Ryan Howard is in there.
That was a cool one.
and again, you've got some current players.
Yordan lvarez is in it, Jos Ramrez is in it, Pete Alonso's in it.
It was a fun set to put together, and, excited to get the Mark McGwire in the mail.
I've actually never had a Mark McGwire autograph in my collection, in any, in any form, so excited to get that for a number of different reasons, but, excited about that little collecting conquest that just took place.
Folks, let's get into our conversation on this edition of the Hobby Handbook.
From AA Mint Cards right here in South Florida, Aaron Amarant was kind enough to stop by.
Let's get right into it.
Well, Aaron, first and foremost, thank you so much.
Really been looking forward to this.
I wanted to give you a chance to tell the AA Mint story to all the folks out there nationwide.
How are you doing today, sir?
I am great.
I'm so happy to be here.
I know we've, we've chatted about doing this for a very long time in one facet or another, whether it be our podcast, your podcast, or somebody else's podcast, but I'm just happy to, happy to be here, happy to chat.
Our, our conversations usually do feel like podcasts sometimes because we go, we go pretty in-depth on stuff, so I'm glad other people can listen to us ramble.
Really excited about it, and, I can tell you when, when I'm going to the card shop, when I say I'm heading over to the card shop, it's, it's AA Mint Cards, right?
In some people say Cooper City, some people say Hollywood.
It's right there on the border here- It's a funny- in South Florida.
It's a funny location because I remember when we were setting up this business, right?
We, we were at an older location that was firmly in Cooper City, right?
No debate.
Across the street from Cooper City High School.
Remember it.
Remember it well.
Yeah, that was a fun location, but we moved here, and we're expanding, and we'll get into all that.
But Apple Maps calls it Hollywood, and then Google Maps calls it Cooper City.
So I'm filling out all this paperwork.
I'm like, "I don't know which one to put," because both of them, I Like, it just depends on which parent you go to what answer you're gonna get.
So yeah, it's, there's a, still a debate.
I don't know where it is.
Well, I wanna get to a couple things off of what you just said, going off the geography there.
But, as you mentioned, you guys have been in a couple of different locations, and you've grown this thing, and the hobby's obviously been doing great.
But never once have, just from my perspective, never once has it looked like you guys were getting comfortable and just enjoying, you know, the strength of the hobby.
It's a strong hobby right now, but you guys are always pushing the envelope.
You're always looking for ways to grow, ways to evolve.
But before we get to all that, take us back a little bit.
Yeah.
How did this all begin?
Because I've mentioned this to you and your dad before, but the AA Mint Cards little label at the bottom of eBay scans, like six years ago- Yeah that was where I first remember AA Mint Cards, was seeing cards for sale on eBay, and before you knew it, you guys had a, a store location and things just took off from there.
Give us kinda the nuts and bolts version for how this whole thing began, the origin story.
Yeah, so it, it's f- it's funny you say that 'cause eBay was the origin, right?
we s- so even before we started, before AA Mint Cards was even a thing, I was in high school.
I was going to a school that was connected to a athletic training facility, and I would l- leave school for lunch, 'cause they let us do that senior year, and go to Target down the street, which is still the Target right over there.
It's the same Target.
I know it well.
And yeah, that's, that was, like, my childhood Target.
And I'd buy Prism football blaster boxes for tw- from 2018 for 20 bucks.
what else would I buy?
I think it was The one I mainly bought was Prism.
That was, like, the 'Cause it just looked cool.
I didn't know the hobby at the time.
I was just like, "Oh, this is sick."
So I would take those boxes, I would bring them back to school and rip them with my friends, and we'd look for the players that we saw training at the athletic training facility, 'cause we wanna get autographs and, and meet some cool people.
So-That's how it all started.
Little did I know what that set would become.
Little did I know what, you know, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, I don't think I even knew who those guys were at the time.
I was just looking for players over there.
but that's how it all kinda started.
So fr- from that inkling of ripping and just getting my feet wet in the hobby, then I started also on the side just as a kid buying, selling arbitrage stuff on eBay.
go to garage sales with my mom and find some stuff that I'd be like, "Oh, this, this could sell for maybe $10 more."
Little did I know eBay fees were were gonna eat up all my profits, right?
So I was doing that on the side.
So I had an eBay account with a pretty good following, nothing crazy, maybe, but it had, like, a solid standing, you know?
then my grandpa actually gave me a box of, I think it was '89 Fleer Jordans.
I think it was '89 or 1990, one of the two.
They were all incredibly off-center.
That's all I remember.
And he's like, "I want you to sell these for me."
So I was like, "Okay."
So I just started selling individual ones of those on my eBay account, and this was, like, end of 2019 going into 2020.
So I started selling those.
Was making, like, 10 bucks a pop, sharing, sharing proceeds with my grandpa, $5 each after fees, which was probably, you know, probably wasn't making anything.
And then during, once COVID happened, and then The Last Dance came out, my dad sort of, like, woke up like a s- a sleeper agent.
Like, "Oh my God, I love cards too."
I'm like, "When the hell did this happen," right?
I was like, I was like, "What's going on here?"
Like, all of a sudden, my world was converged with cards, like, in a very short period of time.
And he's like, "I wanna collect all the GOATs."
I was like, "Okay."
And he, and then he started buying a ton of cards, and I was like, "Okay, this is great."
And then he's like, "Well, we gotta sell them, and we gotta flip them, and we gotta trade them, and we gotta..." He, he was like, he was just going crazy over it.
And it turns out my dad was actually a card dealer back in the, I wanna say '80s, late '80s.
I've seen a couple.
I, I- Yeah he, I've seen a couple of the pictures, and we're referencing the, the great Mark Amarant is who we're- Yes we're discussing here.
Yes.
Mr. Mark Amarant, my dad.
And, so he was in that world back in the '80s.
This was before any numbering existed.
This was before any grading existed.
So we were l- both kind of diving into this new world of the trading card scene, COVID, crazy markets, grading.
What the hell is a Prizm?
What the hell is a Silver Prizm?
What the hell is a numbered Prizm?
Like, all that stuff.
We were, we were sort of just learning through experience, and then we used my eBay account, which we turned to AA Mint Cards, as sort of like an outlet to start actually being able to move and, and gain liquidity and to basically start playing the game.
and that's where you would see that original little teal AA Mint on the bottom left, which I had to figure out how to do via Photoshop in my, in my parents', living room.
I mean, that was the- It was effective and clearly memorable.
I remember it from the early days.
I'm glad it worked 'cause that was our first attempt at marketing.
Um- And then I saw the location of the item, and that was what made me realize you were in South Florida.
Yeah, yeah.
So that, we took that little, little mint thing from Prop Scene because we saw Prop Scene do it on all his cards, and he was, like, the biggest guy on eBay at the time.
Still is pretty big.
and he just had that recogni- recognizability or that recognition.
I was like, "Okay, well, we're mint, so let's do the same.
Let's just copy it, and let's just do the same thing with mint," right?
And it's something we still do to this day.
I think it's pretty effective.
It's, it's like a small, little guerrilla marketing tactic, but it works, so, especially if you remember it.
Absolutely.
It was what kinda, like I said, drew me to you guys for the first time.
And then I remember when the store opened up, and I remember walking in and, and checking out the old location for the first time.
So what went into how you guys got the, the first, the first store location, the first brick-and-mortar store location going, and then what's ultimately allowed it to grow, grow into what it is now?
Which, by the way, folks, if you're outside the area here, if you ever have a chance to stop by AA Mint Cards here in South Florida, it's truly innovative, and it's a place where collectors, young, old, experienced, inexperienced, can stop by and, and have a good time.
But what ultimately led to getting the physical location going?
Well, first of all, I appreciate, I appreciate the promo.
that's always appreciated.
but how did it go?
Okay, so in July of 2020, sold our first everything on eBay.
It's actually, if you see these shirts, these are kind of the employee shirts.
The design on the back is, like, a PSA slab, and it has that date, July 15th, 2020.
And it was the first time we sold anything under the AA Mint Cards umbrella, and that was a box of Card savers.
That's what it was.
It was a box of Card savers.
Sold it for, like, 20 bucks, right?
so then we're like, "Okay, we're buying, selling, buying, selling."
At the time, I was also, going to college.
I was just entering my f- freshman year.
It was COVID, and everything was kinda shut down.
So I had an opportunity to actually go out of state, which I went to South Dakota for about a year for my first year of college, and I was helping remotely via social media and, and stuff like that.
And my parents, I think my dad, Mark, was mainly dealing with all the inventory back at home.
And at the time, I was still like, "Okay, this is a fun hobby, but I wanna go to college.
I wanna get that, that experience."
but then I, I remember coming home, and it was specifically winter break, and we started chatting about it, and we're like, "We need to..." Mark was like, "We need to get allocation and, and get these boxes," right?
He, while, while I was gone, he had clearly just dove into it.
I was like, "Okay."
He's thinking big picture here.
Yep.
He's, he, he's the kinda guy that, let's say I'm, you know, I'm a kid, and I draw him, like, a little smiley face and whatever, and I'm like, "Here you go, Dad."
He's like, "Great.
Produce 100 of these.
We need a marketing plan."
Like, that's this guy, right?
Absolute monster in a great way.
so he's that kind of parent.So I was like, "Okay, all right," you know, "calm down.
But if we're gonna do this, we need to open a store," 'cause all of the shops, or all the allocation was for stores.
And at the time, allocation wasn't We were learning what this all meant.
Mm-hmm.
You know, this is all new to us.
And at the time I was also very big into sneakers.
So we're like, "Okay, if we're gonna do a store, we gotta do it the right way.
We wanna do a next generation kinda store."
'Cause all the shops we went to as we were on this journey were kinda like not They weren't a welcoming customer experience, let's just say that.
It's always some guy in the back who's grumpy, knows the price of everything, dusty footballs everywhere.
It's like, okay, this is cool for a nerd like ourselves, but to the norm- to the normal people, this isn't like I don't wanna, I don't wanna go here, you know?
I wouldn't wanna just hang out here, unless I was, like, deeply in love with the passion of it all.
So we t- I took a page from, sneaker stores, like Flight Club.
That was one of my inspirations, was how sort of minimalist it was, and how they used the wall space specifically.
So basically, this, two-week winter break, we kinda wrote out this plan, and I was like, "Okay, we gotta make this really modern, we gotta make this really inviting."
And then as, once I went back to school, my dad was scoping out some locations, ended up finding the perfect location, which we thought was perfect at the time, was across the street from Cooper City High School.
so by the time I got back in, I wanna say it was June, one summer, yeah, June.
And then, oh, oh, s- I'm jumping all over the place 'cause it's all coming back to me, right?
I, I, it's, in the day-to-day you don't think about these old stories, but now that it's coming back, it's, like, coming at me in, in different ways.
But okay, so got the store planned, came back home.
But before I came back home, we went to California and we visited Burbank, and we went to all those shops out there and got inspired by their layouts and how they do things.
So we took a, a bit of inspiration from them as well, but we knew we were gonna be more, more of a modern interpretation of them.
I love those shops, by the way.
They're, they're great shops, but we just wanted to do something a little different.
So once we got home, then construction started, and we went to the National that, that summer as well, and then we went to Panini.
We're like, "Hey, check out these renderings.
This is what the shop's gonna look like."
And they're like, "Okay, yeah, keep us updated."
So we're like, "Great, that's, that's gonna be a long journey."
so but we just kept our head down.
We just kept working towards it.
We kept pushing the shop to open as fast as humanly possible.
And then by October, I wanna say it was Halloween, 'cause FPL wouldn't turn on the power for, like, weeks for some reason.
but by Halloween we officially opened that original store.
And then, yeah, then e- everything sort of started.
We had It was 600 square feet.
I mean, you remember.
It was a small- Oh, yeah it was a small footprint.
It was essentially a glorified hallway, to a back There was, like, a nice back patio area, but it was small.
We had one table in the back.
We called it the everything table.
It's where we would eat lunch, we would hire people, we would fire people.
It, it was the everything table.
It's where we- I remember dropping off cards to send to PSA at that table.
Yeah, that was, that was an icon That table did a lot of heavy lifting.
That table carried the entire store.
So just, going back to what I was saying about the walls in Flight Club, the shop, since it was so small, since it had such a small s- floor plan, we used the walls.
We had 18-foot high ceilings, so we used the walls with these grids where you scan a QR code, the entire grid pops up on your phone with the, information about the card, pricing, everything like that.
And we had two.
One, one on the bottom was PSA, top one was SGC.
And it allowed us to actually show quite a bit of cards, rather than filling up the small location with jewelry cases and making it tough to navigate.
So that was sort of like our signature design look, software behind it, and that was sort of what led us into, like, the next generation of card shops.
So that was how the first one got started.
It was, it was a journey.
We didn't really know what we were doing.
Even when we opened the shop, we're like, "Okay, we have..." We'd bought product in the secondary market, we'd bought cards in the secondary market, but we just were kinda doing a dry run of what it means to be a shop.
So then, then s- once allocation came, we're like, "Okay, we kinda know what we need to do here."
But that was, that was the, I wanna say that was the beginnings of the modern card shop.
I'm not gonna say we were the first ever modern card shop, 'cause there were definitely We're in South Florida, right?
It's, it is what it is.
It's a small area.
But it was one of the I, I don't remember seeing anything like it at the time, and everybody who walked in sort of relayed that same feedback.
So we were one of the first, for sure, to really take the card shop to a next generation.
And I remember at the time everyone's like, "Oh, these COVID collectors, they come, they go, and we'll see if they can stand the test of time."
And I'm like, "Okay, first of all, you know, nice to meet you, too.
But second of all, it's like, we were just figuring it out at the time, and I think it turned out pretty well."
So- And a couple of things on that, Aaron, because you mention the way that you guys run the shop, the way it looks, first of its kind absolutely in the region down here.
And it seems like more and more, more and more shops popping up around the country that maybe take elements of, of what you guys are doing and what some of the other shops are doing.
Kinda like what you guys did, went and got inspired from some other, other locations.
But as time's gone on, you, you mentioned it right there, you've seen this hobby really continue to grow.
what's it like being on the ground in a shop, seeing it firsthand day to day?
Because we know that, there was a time period about five years ago, a lot of folk, a lot of folks thought it was a, a boom and it was gonna eventually go back to Earth, and that was gonna be that.
Well, you know, maybe we did have a boom.
Maybe there was a little bit of a pullback, but the floor, I think, was higher than it was prior to that.
And now it looks like it's just continuing to surge forward with people who are approaching it from all different angles, looking for all different sports or TCG or whatever it might be.
Just seems like right now is a, a super healthy time for the, the world of cards.
What's it like seeing that firsthand?Yeah, so I, I, I get the privilege of, of seeing it from a lot of different angles, 'cause, Aim 'n Cards is sort of The s- the store is now one of the smaller portions of the business.
'cause we have a, a, a breaking operation that's growing- Mm-hmm and we have a repack operation that's growing.
And to fund pretty much the entire ecosystem, buying, there's a lot of buying involved.
So I see it from every single angle, 'cause I see the customer selling, I see what we're buying, I see the pr- wax prices.
I see a lot of different interactions and sort of a, g- to get a good pulse of what's going on.
right now it's, with the new Topps licensing, there's a lot of product coming out, and that means there's a lot of cards coming into the market.
And I'm, we're seeing the prices of things when they first come out would be extremely high.
but then it, it doesn't sustain.
and same with the cards that come out of those products.
but right now, especially since the football license is over, we're seeing a lot of, a lot of hype-driven stuff, especially now that we have the finals, like Wemby's market.
I mean, he dropped 40 points yesterday, and all of a sudden, you know, it's like all-time highs on everything.
So it reminds me a little bit of COVID-ish, but I feel like it's more, it feels like it's a little bit more sustainable than COVID.
I think there will be a pullback at some point, just in overall market value.
but at the same time, there's a lot of new people getting into it.
Mm-hmm.
So I think those are I, I think it's a balance.
It's a balance between the two.
It's c- I have cautious optimism, but at the end of the day, I tell people this all the time.
They're like, "What should I invest in?"
You know, "What's gonna go up?"
And I'm like, "I don't, I don't know.
I have no clue."
But, but what I do tell them is, like, at the end of the day, collect what you love.
If you love Wemby- Yeah if you think he's your favorite basketball player, then great.
Gr- grab his card.
It'll probably go up if he wins the championship.
Amazing.
But at the same time, if you collect what you love and it goes down in value, you still love it, or at least you'll find out that you love it for the money and not, not because you actually love the card.
But collect what you love and, at the end of the day, if it goes up in value, that's just an added bonus.
But people who do this for money, it, you have to be in this for a very long time to really understand the ebbs and the flows of it.
And there's definitely arbitrage opportunity.
This whole business is built on arbitrage.
But for the new time collector, you don't wanna see them get burned based off of, you know, hype, because then they're never coming back.
And at the end of the day, the community is only as good, or the hobby's only as good as the community that, that fuels it.
And, I just want that community to thrive, and if that thrives, then we'll all be in a better place.
So it's not, I'm not, it's, it's not a, you know, "Oh, I gotta sell this now."
It's a, "This is it for the long term."
And I think, I think a bit of that's going on.
I th- and also a bit of the hype stuff is going on.
So it's, it's opposing forces, I'd say.
Well, I think, I think cautious optimism is a great way to approach anything, and I think the key part of it is optimism.
I'm just like you.
Yep.
I only see this thing continuing to grow and pick up steam.
You have, obviously, sports fans all over the place, and that's not going away, and you see more and more people, more and more athletes out there- Yep sampling trading cards and, and everything that goes along, along with it.
Wanna ask you something, Aaron, because of where we are down here in this region- Yeah maybe something that makes it, maybe something that makes it challenging, maybe something that makes it crazy to be a part of, something that probably makes it great is we're in an area here in South Florida where you have everything.
You have all the major sports.
Yep.
You've got Messi.
Yep.
You've got big-time college sports.
You've got tourists coming in, not just from around the United States, but from around the globe.
So you're in an area where there's really a market for everything.
And I'm not, a- and then take it past sports.
TCG, huge.
Yeah, huge.
You lit- there's, there is literally a market for everything.
There's really, you know, at the s- there, there's a market for, and somebody, a collector for everything that could possibly show up in your store, whether it's sealed product, singles, whatever it is.
Does that make it challenging?
Does that make it great?
Because like I said, we're in an area that has everything, and that has- Yeah people chasing everything.
Yeah, so it's, it, I, it's both.
It's, I love it.
I lo- I love the fact that, that there's so many different, IPs out there when it comes to cards.
it's funny.
It's, this is a sidebar, but it just reminded me.
On the way driving in today, I saw somebody with an Umbreon license plate, and it just said Umbreon.
I'm like, how the hell did you get that?
I'm incredibly jealous, and I hope you're coming by the shop.
That, those were the thoughts that come through my head.
But it's, TCG's massive nowadays.
and it's, it takes about 50% of the transactions from the store, at least 50% are TCG.
And we have a, we have giant baseballs in the front.
Our sign says baseball cards.
Le- but we, we got 50% TCG, so that is going nowhere.
but the fact that there's so many IPs out there, I think we're only just getting started.
the only thing that makes it more difficult is keeping things in stock and choosing what to buy and what not to buy.
like for example, s- SpongeBob, when that came out, we had to, we kinda missed the boat early on, and then we had to kind of buy afterwards, 'cause it was so popular and we wanted to keep it in stock for our customers.
So when there's such a wide breadth of it, you have to pick and choose what you're gonna invest in.
So that's the tough part of it, but, I love it.
I personally, I'm collecting a lot of things that aren't necessarily your normal sports cards.
I mean, I, I'm a huge Formula One fan, which in itself is an emerging market, but there's just so much, so much IP that goes unnoticed, and I still think it's, it's one of the biggest opportunities.
Because once, the hobby's is sort of like a platform, and then once you take just the concept of a collectible card, you can apply it to anything out there.
some of it's sillyBut some of it is actually has some substance behind it, and it's like, oh, wow, this is actually a culturally, important IP that spans generations that they have cards and people don't really realize it.
That's where I think the opportunity lies.
And I wanna kind of expand on that, and I love that you brought up what you're collecting because you guys are running a business, and you have a shop, and people see you guys every day.
But, maybe getting lost in the shuffle a little bit is what kind of cards tickle your fancy?
What gets you excited- Oh, boy when you, when you go home, and what do you, what do you keep, what, what do you keep for yourself?
I know just from talking to you, I consider you one of the foremost Formula One, card market experts that, that I know personally.
But what is it that you're collecting these days?
So Formula One was really what got me into, like, actually got me into cards.
Like, before it was a business, right?
But then when I realized Formula One cards existed, it was right when 2020 Chrome came out that I was actually getting into it as a full-time business.
I was like, "Oh, wow, wait, hold on.
There's something I actually really enjoy here as a card."
Okay, I Like, it helped me understand the mentality of an actual collector who loves a sport.
'Cause, yeah, football I love, basketball I love, but I was never huge into the cards.
I was huge into the sport.
I li- I love the sport, but I wasn't like, "Okay, I need this card."
But then Formula One came out, and I'm like, "Oh my God.
Okay, I get it now.
I get it."
So, I do have a bit of F1.
I actually don't have as much as people think.
I find myself to ha- to buy the card that I like, and then I realize I got it for such a good deal that I might as well just flip it, and then, and then I end up not having it anymore.
So, I, I like to say I collect good deals.
But, but if I'm talking about stuff that money doesn't really matter in this context, I'm collecting a lot of Snoopy right now.
I have over I wanna say I'm approaching, like, 100 Snoopy cards in my collection.
most of them are from the same year.
There's, like, this sticker set that came out of Italy, called I don't know.
Is it Italy or France?
One of the two.
I think it's France.
but it's called, like, La Figurine de Linus.
Like, there's 350 cards in the set.
Um- And these are from when?
1971.
Okay.
Yeah, 1971, and it's all, like They look like little cutouts of, of a comic strip, just like the one cell, and it's all just Snoopy doing a bunch of different things.
Like, you have the Red Baron, you have him on the, the house.
You have him with Woodstock.
You have him playing football.
You have him playing baseball.
You have him playing hockey.
Like, these all exist in this set, and it's so cool.
and there's so many versions.
Like, I need all of them.
But that's, like, historically speaking, rookie Snoopy.
And I think, first of all, I think it's a massive investment opportunity.
But to the side, I think also Teenage Mu- Ninja Turtles is a big investment opportunity.
I think Godzilla's a big investment opportunity.
But I'm only collecting Snoopy 'cause I love Snoopy.
I grew up, my mom loved Snoopy, and I love Snoopy just by proxy, and it's just like, who doesn't like Snoopy?
So yeah, there's some, there's some pieces in that collection that are tough to find.
I've had to do a lot of eBay International, with this one, and pay a lot of tariffs.
But it's, it's hanging up in my It's actually a display piece in my, in my apartment.
I just got a Charles Schulz auto as well.
that one was really cool.
It was a gift for me for my birthday.
and yeah, all this stuff is just like I, I love it.
I just look at it, and I just like it.
And if it's a high grade, I don't High grade, low grade, don't really care.
It's just a cool card.
And, that's what I'm collecting right now.
I, I think I might make a Snoopy case.
Once I get to the point where it's like, okay, I have a lot, I might make a Snoopy case in the store just to show it off a bit.
I think people would like that.
I would I, I'd love to see it.
And, and yeah, no, I'm, I'm sure just based on you talking about this, you probably, caused a lot of people to go and, and run the, 1971 Snoopy search on eBay just to see what, what you're talking about here and, and what might be out there.
Aaron, I wanna throw a few more at you before- Yeah, please we let you get going.
We, we thank you so much for, for being so gener- generous with, with your time today.
But you mention, obviously, the store in its current version, and you mention the, the breaking operation that's happened.
And, you know, I'm glad that I've become friends with you guys.
I've seen the store grow kind of, you know, from, from the origins that you talked about earlier.
But did you, did you ever think that it was gonna get to the point that it is right now, where you've got the around the clock breaking operation, and like you said, you, you have so many different tentacles of the business, and the content which you guys are always pushing the envelope on and, and kinda been innovative on there?
Did you ever see it getting to this point?
No.
With room to grow, might I add.
Yeah.
it's, it's interesting 'cause it feels like every single time that something We start some sort of new venture, or something really starts gaining steam, it's like, it always feels like we just got started again, right?
So, like, I feel on, on the breaking operation, even though we've been doing it since July of '24, we're approaching two years now, that's just getting started.
And with the repack operation, which right now is mainly feeding the breaking, but we're just starting a whole white label program, since we g- we got officially whatnot approved 100% on the audit, passed pretty much every sort of check that you could have.
Now we're going out and saying, "Hey, you know, if, if Doug Plagens had a breaking operation, or Doug Plagens had a store, you can come to Mint City and say, 'Hey, build us a Doug Plagens repack.'
And we want, you know, this floor, this ceiling, these sports only, and we can make it happen for you."
So that in itself, in my opinion, can be bigger than everything we're doing because Mint City is an international brand that can essentially accommodate whoever needs it.
we're already having I've already We've already done a launch in the UK for a, for a repack product for a company called Edition One.
and we're, we're just getting started on that as well.
So long story short, no, I didn't think it could get to this point, but at the same time, I'm not really surprised it did.
and I think we're I, I still think we're getting, just getting started, which is the craziest.
Like, I see what's going on, and I'm like, "We haven't even scratched the surface of this.
"And I wanna, give you a chance to elaborate on something that you mentioned a few minutes ago, because when you walk into your store, I think that's the first thing you notice is it's not, it's not the idea of a card shop that I remember growing up in the '80s and '90s, and, and things like that.
You walk in, it's bright, there's TVs on, you got cards on the wall, it's clean, it, I must say, it smells great in there.
Whatever you guys use to clean the place, it smells great in there.
It's- We just have our employees shower, that's all.
It's It's, it's an, it's an inviting, it's an inviting environment.
and again, not just pumping your tires here, but, you got a 5.0 Go- 5.0 Google rating.
That is, nothing to sneeze at.
That's, that's nothing to be taken lightly.
So as far as the in-store experience, you've got so many other things going on, but it's that in-store experience that brings a lot of people into the hobby and makes them stay in the hobby, whether it's somebody who's been collecting forever, or whether it's, you know, a, a 10-year-old kid, mom's bringing him in after school and he's sampling cards for the first time.
How much emphasis do you guys continue as the business evolves to How much emphasis do you still put on the conventional, the traditional in-store experience in terms of being what kinda cultivates the, you know, collectors and cultivates the hobby?
Yeah.
So the in-store experience is sort of how we started, right?
Because we, we started as a store I mean, we started on e-com, technically, but the store was always like, "Okay, how do we just make this a great customer experience?"
We were always going for that premium level customer experience.
Like, you can buy these cards anywhere.
There's literally a Target down the street.
But where are you gonna go that has prod- products, subject matter experts who every single h- employee there collects something, and it's part of their hobby as well.
So that was always an emphasis from day one.
And in everything we've done since then, we've intertwined that DNA of, of that customer experience into it, whether it be a new product, whether it be a new breaking, show, whether it be, the whole TCG side of things.
So the in-store experience is actually sort of the fabric, like the DNA that, that drives everything else we do to try to figure out how to translate that into anything we do.
Because at the end of the day, we were new to this hobby, too.
Mm-hmm.
We Even though my dad was a part of it back in the, back in the '80s, it's, it's completely different.
so back when we were getting started, it's like, how do we find a place, or how do we create a place that would be inviting to us as, you know, just a father-son duo that is getting into the hobby?
So that has been the underlying glue that holds things together, and still is.
John, who's the general manager here, does an absolute great, great job at, you know, making people feel comfortable, but also educating people on what this hobby is.
a lot of the times it's, it's people from out of town, like you were mentioning, people going on cruises, people coming from cruises, people who saw our content, people who are coming to sporting events, to Hard Rock stadiums just five miles down the street.
So we, we get a l- we're basically also an education center.
It's sort of My dad used this cl- used this analogy, and I never really agreed with it, 'cause I was like, "Oh, well..." I was being a bit of a smartass, but now I kind of do.
It's the Apple Store of cards, because now when you go to an Apple Store, there's a Genius bar that tells you, "Hey, here's how you do this.
Here's, here's the latest product.
Here's..." I mean, Apple Store don't sell, doesn't sell, mystery boxes, but if they did, it'd be something like this.
Because it's not just selling an item, it's selling the experience, it's walking into the ecosystem, and it's being educated on what this entire ecosystem even is about, which also just happens to be the, the hobby in general.
So I think I answered your question, but I, I It's the in-store experience that sorta intertwines everything we do.
It drives everything.
Because without the customers and without the c- customers having a great experience, why would they Let a- Forget us.
Why would they come back to this hobby?
It's expensive.
It can be.
We all know that.
But we gladly do it, because we love it.
And if we can't cultivate a experience where they learn to love it, then we're not doing our job right.
Yeah, that's the job at the end of the day of the, card shop, to make it an inviting hobby and, and something that people can go in and enjoy, not just in the short term, but in the long term.
Apple mystery boxes would be a scary thing, because, like, hey, you can either get the brand-new iPhone or you can get a, a charger that might not work- Yeah for what you have.
That would be a, a risky venture.
not sure how- I don't know about the floor, the floor and ceiling on that.
I don't know what that, that would entail.
You get a, a mouse pad.
Do they still have those?
Or you can get, a, a laptop, a MacBook.
Do they still have that?
I- Imagine, imagine if they did it with, like, first edition iPhones, though, like the vintage.
That would be kinda cool.
True.
Then it's a whole d- then it is a whole different, different element.
We're recording this before the Memorial Day weekend, May 19th.
As Aaron mentioned, we're a day removed from Victor Wembanyama having a, a massive game in game one of the Western Conference Final.
But collectors going into the store, just throw a few names out there.
What are the big things people are asking for when they walk in?
I'm sure with the World Cup on the horizon, there are some big soccer names getting thrown your way.
Yeah.
It could be a lot of the names that we're expecting you to throw out there.
I'm sure you get people asking about Otanis, and I'm sure you're selling Otanis every single day.
But when people walk in, what are the names that, collectors are asking for, and is there a name or two that, that might surprise us that people are asking for?
So, like, as you mentioned, us being in South Florida, with the World Cup coming around, a lot of people are not only, you know, just buying individual soccer cards, but they're actually just ripping soccer for the first time.
Like, the way I learn something is by interacting with it and doing a little bit of an investment into it, because then it's like I have a little more motivation to do it, and I'm, I'm seeing that on the, on the ripping side.
So people are learning soccer.
there's been a lot of hype, I mean, a ton of hype over the stickers, the Panini stickers with the albums.
we're actually having the Panini truck tour.
I don't know, when is This, this one should be going out in time.
it is Actually, I wanna get you an accurate address, or accurate, timetable on this, because we have the truck tour coming out, from Panini to the shop.
I wanna give you a date that this is coming out, because it's gonna be an absolute, absolute insane time.
Let me pull it up here.
It's gonna be Yeah, June13th, the night of June 13th.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I might be able to get out there, I might be able to get out there for that one.
Is that a Saturday?
Yeah, it's a Saturday.
Okay.
So MegaFest Card Show at the Hard Rock is going on- Yep which we're also sponsoring that show.
But then that night, the Panini, sticker truck tour is visiting the shop with a, a big Panini World Cup sticker trading event.
So the soccer hype is real.
We're very excited- Yeah for that.
We're projecting that to be one of our biggest, events ever at the store.
So that one's gonna be very, very fun, and the soccer hype just continues.
and then basketball.
th- playoffs are not going anywhere.
They just announced SGA as MVP.
They're doing the whole buyback program.
I've gotten many texts about SGA cards.
but football's still strong.
I have a hunch that it's gonna start picking back up once people are done with soccer, once the World Cup Final, they're like, "All right, we can, we can go back to being American now," and we can start ripping rip some American football.
But I'd say Oh, Tony, I'm trying to think of, like, an oddball for you.
a lot of, a lot of hockey too.
Hockey's picking up.
Hockey is picking up.
Um- I noticed that from setting up at a couple shows recently.
Um- Yeah, it's good.
That is m- people, people walking right up to the table and asking, "What Macklin Celebrini do you have?"
And, "What Matthew Schaefer do you have?"
And, and names like that.
It's g- it's great.
I th- I always thought that hockey was very underappreciated.
Upper Deck does a great job with the cards, but I think now they're really diving into that fan experience, and I think that's really helping out.
So hockey is definitely, definitely on the up and up.
even if you c- if you could call that kind of an emerging sport, which I kind It's, it's already established.
Hockey cards have always been a thing.
But now you have the, I think you have the cross-pollinization going on.
cross-pollination, not pollinization.
Po- cross-pollination of football and basketball buyers also getting into hockey, 'cause they now see it more as an investment potential.
Uh- And there's some good, there's some good cost of entry on product.
you know- Great cost of entry pr- pr- products that have, you know, whether you're going for young guns, or you're getting on-card autographs in a, you know, a product like Credentials or something like that that's got a pretty manageable price point.
Yeah.
And then you take, even if you take it all the way up to 11 and look at The Cup- Yep it's still You compare it to Flawless, compare it to, to Dynasty, it's still a deal.
Like, that's still an absolute- Yeah deal and a half.
So I think it's, it's much more accessible, and, and the cards are fun.
I love, I love the patches that they do.
They just, they just do a really solid job on it.
but I'm trying to think of, like, a, like, a zinger, but it's, it's been pretty, pretty status quo.
I mean, we haven't got- And the GOATs.
As you ha- GOATs are good people love the GOATs.
Yeah.
Your, your Jordans, your Kobes, your Tom Bradys, what have you.
Oh, that's c- that's constant.
Yeah.
That is a, that is a constant.
That market continues to fly.
we ha- we just bought a couple Jordan autos.
We actually got a Washington Wizards Jordan auto, which is s- super rare.
You don't see that too often.
but they fly.
They It's, it's insane.
Even in the ultra high-end, people are, I see, choosing more GOATs, which I agree with, than, than the speculative stuff.
But Downtown Kabooms continue to rise now that Panini lost the license.
Those gold Downtown Kabooms, those black Pandoras, those one of ones, those That market's becoming absolutely nuts.
and Caitlin Clark as well.
Yep.
WNBA still strong.
Still very, very strong.
She's done a great job for that sport.
And now you have Paige Bueckers following suit, so that's exciting too.
We're, we're at a, we're at a very exciting part of the hobby where it's pre-national, the hype's starting to build.
This year we have something a little different with the World Cup, and then the se- and then the NFL season starts.
And, like, May is usually the slow time, and it doesn't feel like that this year.
It certainly doesn't.
And Aaron, two quick ones, I promise.
Two more- Yes and we'll let you get going here.
But first one, is there a product, any sport, could be non-sport, is there one product every year that really just gets you going?
Whether it's something you wanna rip for yourself- Oh, yeah that you wanna break.
Is there one thing you look forward to most every single year?
You've got it circled on the calendar, and the day that comes out, you just feel a little different going into the store that day.
Yeah, and everybody around me feels different, because they know I'm gonna steal it off the shelf.
my dad actually hides product from me.
It's m- it's actually, it's messed up.
it's t- I, I got two answers to that, and it's, it's No- nobody's gonna be surprised by this, but it's Topps Chrome Formula 1, and it's Topps Dynasty Formula 1.
And this year there's something different called Topps Carbon Formula 1, and that, I have no idea.
It's first-year product.
Some of the cards are gonna be carbon fiber.
It looks sick, and- Is it, like, a Topps Chrome Black kinda thing, or is it...?
Because I've heard about this.
It, it's sim- I think it's a similar configuration.
the one- Okay the one thing that's interesting is in the world of Formula 1, autos are, like, really tough to find.
In Topps Chrome it's, does not even guarantee an auto.
It's one every two boxes.
So Carbon is guaranteeing an auto in every box, which is a big deal for Formula 1.
And there's some cards made of carbon fiber.
There's some really cool patches.
There's, I think there might be pieces of body work in the cards.
I f- maybe.
so that one, I think that one's fall.
I'm very excited for that one.
but Dynasty, that one card, big risk, high reward.
That one is I always look at it and I'm like, "Oh, it doesn't make sense financially," but then it just, it's so cool.
the cards are beautiful.
They do a great job.
The cards are, yeah, the cards are beautiful.
One of those high-end products that just, it just, every card feels like it's a, kind of a museum piece in a- Yeah.
Yeah in a sense.
They did a great job.
And, and Aaron, last thing here.
Somebody goes to you and says, "Hey, I'm thinking about starting a card shop."
What would be the first piece of advice you'd give them, or maybe what is something that you, that you wish you knew five or six years ago as you guys were getting this thing off the ground that maybe, you had a little bit better idea of before you dove right in?
Oh, boy, that's really toughIs a valid answer don't?
Don't do it?
Well, I'm glad- No, but- I, I would, I, I hope that's not the answer, because then a, a great card shop wouldn't be there.
I'm glad you guys did.
No, so yeah.
Th- thank you.
but right now it's a d- it's a different landscape than when we started.
you have- Yeah.
It's n- we had Panini, Topps, and Upper Deck going at the same time.
We were able to secure allocation from all three.
This was back in 2021.
Mm-hmm.
That was a different era.
Nowadays, it's The Panini allocation doesn't really matter as much.
Topps allocation's incredibly hard to get.
They're actually letting I mean, I have friends who have applied and, and haven't gotten it.
Upper Deck is growing nicely, but I would say it's really, really tough.
Focus on getting product at a good price, whether it be allocation or through th- or, you know, distributors.
But product is everything, and product at a good price is your lifeblood.
If you're buying product secondary market, there's not enough to keep the lights on and pay for rent, let alone actually grow.
So as a card shop, it's a lot harder nowadays, to get that in, per se.
But I would then, kind of hopping off of that, I would just focus on singles.
Focus on a constant flow of singles, on buying slabs, buying ungraded.
Provide a great environment for people to look through those items.
'Cause you could still get We're, we're all on a level playing field when it comes to, to graded and, and raw singles.
So if, make that your bread and butter, and just move volume on that.
Make sure you have a, a live shopping some sort of thing.
You don't have to get into breaking, but have some sort of live shopping outlet.
The, the whole thing is keeping velocity of, of money and liquidity high, because this is a very cash-intensive business.
You know, it's not like we're buying 100 T-shirts that cost us X and then we're selling, you know, selling them for Y.
This is something where all these deals are gonna pop up constantly, and you always have to make sure that you have the cash on hand to be able to take advantage of them when they come.
because once you get bogged down with product, then, then it's really, really tough to move.
So focus on what moves, focus on what mar- has margin, and just make sure your cash position, it stays relatively strong, 'cause it can easily dwindle, and that's when you start running into some problems.
So, and good luck, and keep a great customer experience.
At the end of the day, they won't show up without that, so.
Well, you guys, provide a great customer experience, and it's been a great experience here having you on the Hobby Handbook.
I'm glad we were able to make this work, Aaron.
And, again, I, I've said it, it's not just because you guys are my friends, and your, you and your dad, good guys in the hobby.
Everybody over at your store, good guys in the hobby, but, and good people in the hobby.
But, if you're ever in the area, go and, go and check out the store.
It's an inviting place, and I'm sure you'll find something in there that, that you, you'll wanna take home with you.
So, again, thank you so much for, for stopping by.
Anywhere, throw out all the information.
Where can everybody find you guys, just across the different platforms?
Yeah, so on every single platform, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, it's gonna be @AAMintCards.
Whatnot as well, @AAMintCards.
We also do TikTok live streams, @AAMintCards.
and then Pokemon, @AAMintTCG, on Instagram and on Whatnot.
And then for our repacks, that would be @WelcomeToMintCity.
and also AAMintCards.com, WelcomeToMintCity.com, and pretty much Is there anything else?
AAMintStore.com.
Yes.
AAMintStore.com.
Yeah.
Yeah, you guys- But thank you for having me.
You covered a lot.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, Aaron Amarant from, AA Mint Cards, and Aaron and his dad, Mark, everybody over there at, AA Mint Cards, like I said, great people in the hobby, and, great to, great to have you on the show.
Thanks for stopping by, Aaron.
I'm glad we could finally make this happen.
We absolutely did.
Thank you again, and we look forward to having you on again down the road.
All right.
Thank you, Doug.
Well, big thanks again, Aaron Amarant from AA Mint Cards, for stopping by on this edition of the Hobby Handbook.
again, Aaron, his dad, Mark, great guys.
Some of the great guys in the hobby.
Great shop.
The whole crew over there does an outstanding job.
and again, if you're ever down in South Florida, I think you'd enjoy yourself stopping by AA Mint Cards, so be sure to check out the shop.
You can check them out online, check out their social content.
Once again, big thanks to Aaron for taking some time out for us on this edition of the Hobby Handbook.
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Folks, that's gonna do it for us on this edition of the Hobby Handbook.
Again, I'm Doug Plagins.
Thank you for being here with us.
Thanks to the guys for, trusting me to keep the train on the tracks here these last few weeks.
You'll have your usual hosts coming back here very soon.
But, again, thanks to everybody here for having me.
Thanks to Brendan on the other side for the great production work as always.
Once again, folks, I'm Doug Plagins.
You can find me each week over on the Nonsense on Ice podcast, where we talk hockey and we talk the hobby.
And no shortage of, hockey tidbits to get to each week as we get closer and closer to the Stanley Cup Final here.
At this moment that we're talking, the Vegas Golden Knights have punched their ticket into the Stanley Cup Final.
Still waiting for things to shake out between the Carolina Hurricanes and the Montreal Canadiens.
But, hey, next time the Hobby Handbook runs, we're gonna know, potentially, we may know the Stanley Cup Final.
I have the schedule right out in front of me.
Either way, folks, thanks for, having me along.
Thanks for tuning in.
I thank you for being on board with us.
Again, thanks to Brendan on the other side.
Thanks to Aaron from AA Mint Cards for stopping by.
Again, check out all their stuff online as well.
That's been another edition of the Hobby Handbook.
I'm Doug Plagins.
We'll talk to you next time.
