Breaking Down Brett Veach’s Drafting Position By Position

Welcome back to Wacky Wednesday on the Arrowhead Addict channel! Adam Best and Sterling Holmes dive into the NFL Combine as the unofficial kickoff to the Chiefs' 2026 offseason—then we introduce a brand-new segment: The Veachometer We grade Brett Veach's draft confidence by position group, debate how much of the Chiefs' roster-building DNA is Veach vs. Andy Reid, and finish with the return of a fan-favorite game: the KC Stock Market (pump or dump).

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Welcome to Wacky Wednesday here on the Arrowhead Addict Channel.

I'm the blog father, Adam Best, and as always, I'm joined by the golden voice of Sterling Holmes.

Sterling, we were talking pre-show about testing for the combine.

You've, you've got the bum foot.

I've basically got the bum everything below the waist for since forever.

I don't think either one of us, well, well, OK, dog, what a wild way to start the show.

I, I'm talking from a football context.

I apparently sponsors BlueChew, Heartland's Men's Health, uh, Hims.

We apparently have an opening and we have a great spokesman.

There we go, taking one for the team.

No, I meant in a, in a football context, not even a Chris Jones football like combine context, all right.

Neither one of us are gonna be running a great 40 today, but I'm excited that the combine is sort of the official or unofficial kickoff for each NFL season, turning the page on a brutal 2025, looking forward to 2026.

I think we kind of put too much into the testing and really what's probably most important is the medicals and the interviews and sort of the posturing or communications behind the scenes.

Uh, I can tell you're still cracking up over there.

Yeah, I mean, I just think last year was so hard on Patrick.

I mean, I know there was a lot of stiff competition that they faced, obviously, but I, I, Yeah, the, the road back to contending will be long and hard.

That's, that's all, that's all I can say.

Oh man, we're, we're not even making it 3 minutes in and we're completely off the rails, but that is, that is hump day for you.

We've got a great show for you guys today.

I listened to Price and Christian on Monday, I listened to you and Josh yesterday, and it's kind of a continuation of the same thing, priming you guys for the draft, but After hearing you and Josh yesterday, I think the Discourse around one Brett Veach has gotten a little out of hand.

I, I kind of understand the Andy Reid discourse, like, a, a little bit of panic in the streets about has he lost his fastball?

Can he still adjust at his advanced age.

With Brett Veach, I By the way, real quick, I'm sorry because I just always find it so funny.

Once you hit like your 60s, for some reason, there's two different types of people.

Like Kurt Signetti is 3 years younger than Andy Reid, and people talk about him as like, look at him there, he's got 20 years left.

Andy Reid, like, look how old he is.

He's, has he lost his fastball at 67?

I mean, Pete Carroll, yeah, last year was bad, but prior to that, Pete Carroll's in his 70s and looked pretty damn good.

I don't, I don't know.

I, I think the Andy Reid age thing has been blown out of proportion personally.

Well, Pete Carroll is a good comp here because he looks great, chewing his gum and running around the field, like, like he's 27 or something, but it, it's more about upstairs, like, can you still keep challenging yourself and reinventing yourself.

I think it gets harder in, in all aspects of life as you grow older, and uh we've seen Andy Reid do it before.

But I, we're gonna talk about something in one of our favorite segments that's returning today.

I don't wanna, I don't wanna spoil it, but we're gonna talk about Andy Reid's maybe stubbornness when it comes to a certain aspect of his offense and, and can he evolve.

But Brett Veitch, I think Brett Veach has been doing a lot of shopping of groceries.

For Spags, for Andy Reid.

I, I don't think he really often has the, the absolute final say in this organization.

Now, after a down year, both offensively and defensively, I think this is where Brett Veach is really gonna come into his own and start to put his own imprint on this team because, let's face it, at some point during the Mahomes era, Andy Reid's likely gonna be gone.

Steve Spagnolo is almost certainly gonna be gone.

And Brett Veitch, most likely, unless he really blows this, will be here for the entire duration of the Mahomes era.

So, I think we're gonna see a slow passing of the baton.

And I think it would really behoove Brett Veach to sort of speak up more than he than he ever has this offseason and, and really throw his weight around a little bit.

In a way he probably hasn't been able to up until this point.

So, what we're gonna do is, it's a new segment, it's called the Vitrometer, and we're gonna break down Brett Veach's drafting position by position.

And this is a scale I've created to determine how much we trust him drafting each individual position group.

But I just wanna preface this by saying, I think Uh, and Josh said something similar yesterday.

I think the people, the in, in Vach we trust people that, that are just carrying water for him and don't think he can do any, anything wrong are delusional, and I think the fire Brett Veach, Brett Veach is a terrorist.

People have lost their damn minds and, and possibly need psychological help.

Can , can We find a middle ground here where he is a top 10 GM where he's been a, a good steward and, and a good shepherd of this organization.

And we've seen with, with Schneider up in Seattle, he had a heater when he built, built that legion of boom, right?

He was on a super hot streak drafting in Seattle, their general manager up there.

And then he had a cold streak.

And you know what happens in the draft?

You get hot again.

That's just the way it works.

Everybody has hits and misses and peaks and valleys, and Seattle, a couple of good drafts and they're back in business.

They won another Super Bowl.

I think Brett Veach has had maybe a couple of tough years uh after a, a pretty damn hot run there, but I, I still have faith in him.

But I, I think one way to look at these general managers is, they all have their strengths and weaknesses and This is gonna kind of play into some game theory with Brett Veach , like, where do we want him making picks and what positions do we not want him picking.

So, it's basically a 1 to 5 scale, but I have players representing the confidence instead of the numbers.

Patrick Mahomes, which we're going to give Brett Veitch credit for that, that draft selection is a 5 out of 5 on the confidence scale.

Creed Humphrey is a 4 out of 50, Creed's a 5.

Uh, proportionally, proportionally Trey Smith's a 5, 6th rounder.

I mean, proportionally.

If, if Patrick Mahomes is the greatest draft pick of all time, Creed Humphrey cannot be on the same scale.

Fine, I don't, I'm angry because What do you, what do you want?

You want Trip McDuffie there?

Would that make you happier?

No, because Trent might be in the same category as Creed.

Then we just have a whole bunch of fives.

Uh, George Carloft, this is a 3 question.

Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

That was, that was rude of me.

That was, that was insubordination, quite frankly.

Uh, if Patrick's a 5, well, that just means there's never gonna be a 5.

It's, it's not really representative of The actual greatness of the pick.

It's more about the confidence.

Alright, yeah, I wish, I, I'm trying to make this fun.

I'm trying to make it wacky.

I could have just done 1 through 5, but no, I just wanted to be a smart ass.

There's one thing about me, I like being a smart ass or a dumb ass.

It depends on which ass I'm feeling that day.

And sometimes it's a thin line between which is which.

George Carloftis is a 3 out of 5, Nicole Hardman is a 2 out of 5, Clyde Edwards E. Lehr is a 1 out of 5 on the confidence scale.

Let's start with running back.

I know that's a position that's on a lot of people's minds.

On one hand, you have probably the worst pick, the single worst pick of the Veach era in Clyde Edwards-Alai.

On the other hand, they did pick Isaiah Pacheco in the 7th round, which I, I, I know that went downhill at the end because of injuries and his shortcomings, but he had for a 7th round pick there, being the lead rusher on a couple of Super Bowl teams, that is a hit.

There's, there's no doubt about that, that that was a hit.

So I don't know.

Part of this is how willing they are to actually pull the trigger again on, on a running back.

Do they have confidence in themselves?

I'm probably gonna go.

Nicole Hardman, just because of Isaiah Pacheco bringing that up a little bit from a, from a one.

Yeah, I would agree.

I don't think Clyde's the worst pick.

I think the worst one is probably FAU for being honest.

I mean, at least Clyde had one good year.

Like at least Clyde put together one good season and had a couple other mediocre ones, but at least he had some production.

I, I think it's probably FAU.

Personally, I mean, Breshard Smith, if you want to get into the 2nd round.

Not that many picks farther away from, from Clyde, but yeah, the point still remains was not a good pick.

It was still a 1. you're right, I'll go Pacheco moves it up.

I, I think, uh, the 2, the Nicole Hardman is as far as I'll go when it comes to, I mean, again, if you're picking at 9, your confidence, if he's going running back at 9, you know who it is, right?

There's not gonna be a, Not a surprise.

You go to the 40s or then the 3rd round, I think my, my number starts getting more into a probably that 2 range.

I guess what I'll say about why I think CEH is the worst pick is at least FAU was kind of a little bit more reflective of the consensus mock draft board, uh, that groupthink kind of had FAU in that same area.

I think almost everyone agreed that CEH is a little bit of a reach.

So, and that, that was the same thing about Nicole Hardman.

Uh you just worry about the Chiefs when really any team, when they stray too much from that consensus board.

But I also think you have to consider a little bit of what Brett Veach has done in free agency.

I know it's not the same thing.

But can he identify talent at the position?

He's actually had a pretty good eye for talent at the position because he found Jarek McKinnon.

Now, you have to give the medical staff a lot of credit there because we always knew Jarek McKinnon was talented, but nobody could keep him on the field until the Chiefs.

But Damian Williams, he did nothing nowhere else and the Chiefs kind of saw something in him.

When he was kind of floundering away in Miami and they brought him in and Super Bowl champion, now he's part of franchise history.

So, I think I considered that a little bit too, in giving them a McCole instead of a Clyde.

Yeah, and again, Elijah Mitchell also brings that bad boy down too.

Oh, we gotta be honest.

Yeah, well, live by the medical, die by the medical, right?

I mean, you, you, that was one, banged up San Francisco running back too many in my opinion.

So wide receiver, this is another tricky one because Rasheed Rice has definitely had his moments on the field.

Uh, he's a TMZ headline waiting to happen off the field, but on the field, and, and I think a lot of teams had him off their board coming into the draft quietly because of that.

Xavier Worthy, better as a rookie than as a sophomore, uh, maybe injuries and scheme had something to do with it.

I actually think he looked a lot better when he wasn't sharing the field with Rice.

But you have to consider the Kadarius Tony trade.

You have to consider because they gave up draft capital there, the Sky Moore and Nicole Hardman most of all, and also, he obsesses over smaller, faster receivers.

Our own Pryce Carter uh pointed out that they've never drafted during the Beach era, uh, a receiver who doesn't have a 10th, uh, top 10 percentile, 10-yard split.

And is that Veach or is that Reed?

That's where I think that conversation comes into play where I, I don't know if it's all Veach.

I, I don't know.

We, that, that's what makes some of these judgments so difficult because we also know Andy likes those type of guys.

As well.

You have Cornell Powell , if you're gonna throw him into the equation, that's kind of a late-round flyer.

I don't think I can quite get there on that.

Jalen Royals, who didn't see the field hardly at all last year, but that was a rookie last year.

So you give him a little bit of grace to get out a super high draft pick.

I, I, I don't like doing it back to back, but I'll probably say a 2, and Nicole Hardman.

Xavier Worthy, reach or not, I, I think that, you know, my thoughts I that Ladd McConkie made more sense.

Quite frankly, Ladd McConkie had a down year last year, so it didn't really make that much of a difference.

Um, I, I think I'm still in that 2 slash Nicole Hardman range of my confidence level with wide receiver.

It's not very high because we've not seen a lot of success for the guy who's been most successful is the guy that's also in so many issues that who knows what his status even looks like next year.

So, yeah, I can't get there.

I can't get any higher than a 2 and um.

Yeah, I'll leave it there.

It's a 2.

Nicole Harbin.

Free agency really doesn't change this that much because Sammy Watkins is one of those guys that has an insane 10-yard burst.

He's very, very reed-ish, and frankly, Juju is sort of a no-brainer, but Hollywood Brown is maybe the most Andy Reid receiver I've ever seen in my life other than than DeSean Jackson.

And if you look at Andy Reid's past before Brett Veach, I know he was in Philadelphia for part of the time, but before he became a major player in Andy Reid's story, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin, also came here, Jason Avant, Todd Pinkston, Kevin Curtis.

Terrell Owens is the real outlier and what team wouldn't bring in PeakTO, uh, even with the headaches, he was a near generational talent.

So, there's a long track record of Andy Reid not liking size at the position.

We'll talk about this later, but for now, I'm in agreement with you, by the way, on the McCole, on the scale.

Let's go to tight end and really There have been a couple of swings here.

Jared Wiley, I think you have to remember that Jared Wiley had the injury and that's kind of affected things, so you have to consider that.

And then Noah Gray, who looked pretty solid.

What is Noah fifth-round pick?

Yeah, 5th round out of Duke.

5th-rounder out of Duke really looked like a solid hit, and I think you still have to consider him a hit from where he, he was.

It's very similar to Mike Danna, where tremendous draft pick and hit for where you got him, but ill-advised second contract, like, who are they bidding against on these players, you know, you, you know what I mean?

So, but that's a different story.

We're talking about his ability to evaluate this position in the draft.

I, I would kind of just play it safe and give them a George Carloftis, a 3 out of 5, just because we don't really have that much information.

They haven't made a huge swing at this position yet.

Yeah, I guess the highest one would have been Jared Wiley, who was he 4th?

I think so.

Is he a 4th rounder?

I don't think he was quite a 3rd.

I don't.

I think so.

You, you're correct.

You're correct.

Yeah.

So, yeah, they've Jared Wiley, Brendan Stool was a UDFA, uh, free agency does nothing because of Robert Tunion.

Obviously, Kelsey was already here, so we can't, it's really tough to judge, especially with Kelsey already here.

Makes a lot more difficult.

Yeah, I'll, I'll say 3.

I think you're right.

That was my gut reaction as well was almost unfinished and not enough to go off of Jared Wiley.

I said at the time.

It was my least favorite pick in that draft.

And, uh, people just kept sending me of him catching touchdowns in college.

I'm like, you mean the one year.

I don't, this is nothing for me.

Um, so I feel pretty good about that one that I got that right.

Noah Gray was intrigued and I went and looked back at the grade I gave him then and, uh, felt pretty in line.

I, I think along the lines of, I think he'll be fine.

It'll be pretty valuable for the slot he was drafted in.

But I don't think he's a guy who's gonna be a game-changer.

And that's kind of what we saw is he's more of a change of pace.

Last year, I wanna throw out the window, but you can't because the year prior, he was so good.

I mean , his hands were incredible and even to start last year were like, give Noah Gray the ball more.

And then it just got sideways quick.

I don't know if he got in his head.

I don't know what happened, but, um, if Noah Gray is back, I, I kinda wanna, and maybe this is just me.

Wishing I think he's more of that 2024 guy than the 2025 guy.

I, I, I just felt like last year, I don't know.

I, I, I don't believe that's who he is when he's shown us so much more every other season in the NFL.

He's a really curious case because he had kind of plateaued, I want to say around 400 yards.

And then he had a spike, and, and it's like, OK, tight ends, they can mature more slowly sometimes we're starting to see Noah Gray on the rise as we sunset Travis Kelsey.

He just really fell off the map last year in a super unexpected way.

He was Mr.

Reliable for Patrick Mahomes, as you pointed out in 2024, uh, Mr. Third down, he was kind of a third down, uh, security blanket, a secondary security blanket behind Travis Kelsey.

You could see the trust that Patrick Mahomes had in him, and then last year, that just kind of eroded.

It didn't seem like that was there anymore.

I don't know if he was unhealthy or we don't know what's going on in these guys' lives.

You hate to say they get paid and, and then things change, but The contract year is sort of undefeated.

Let's move on to, I'd like to do offensive line together.

I just don't think you can given the history because they've done great.

On the interior and then at offensive tackle, it's been a little, been a little shakier.

Now, the one thing to say at offensive tackle, and this is going to be a recurring theme with defensive line, it's very hard to find great offensive tackle play outside the top 25, outside the top 20.

Same thing with, with defensive line.

Not so much if you're looking for a guard or a center, you can find absolute studs later in the draft.

Creed Humphrey, best center in the league, 2nd-round pick.

So Interior offensive line.

I'm going to give them a 4, if not a 5.

They've been in the Trey Smith pick, as much as I love the the Creed Humphrey pick and think it was one of the best ones in franchise history, getting Trey Smith in the 6th round is absurd.

It's absolutely absurd.

Well, we, we know, it's because the medicals.

That was the whole reason why he was there.

But still, I'm going for.

I'm going for, or even just overall, you combine them both, I'm still going for.

Yeah, taco play has been bad, but they haven't really had a ton.

Josh Simmons looks the part.

Now, again, he also fell because of the injuries and the medicals, but Josh Simmons looked the part, so I'll have to go off of that, looked good.

Uh, when it comes to contracts, not great.

Obviously, Juwan Taylor and, and Jaylen Moore, Jalen Moore didn't look good last year.

He looked below average, quite frankly.

Um, but you have Kingsley, who was a tackle who moved to guard and became a damn good left guard, created Humphrey best center in football by a wide margin.

Trey Smith, top seven guard, probably all, uh, overall, both left and right in all of football.

Even the UDFA have like Esapole in, in the fore side of Chuw Godrick, who looks fine.

Um, Hunter Hunter Orzad has looked capable at times in, in, in limited action.

Yeah, I, I, Nick Allegretti, what, not Allegretti, um, Oh, not Andrew Wiley.

No, both those guys were, were before.

I'm assuming both those guys were before, um.

Doesn't matter.

Point remains, he's done a, a fine job overall.

I think fine's too, too, too small.

He's done a good job.

I'll give this a 4 out of 5 because I think the offensive line he's done .

Almost as good as you can expect without having these top picks.

Yeah, and again, all of this needs to be seen through the lens of where does Andy Reid stop and where does Brett Veitch start, and I'd even add Andy Heck into this equation because these coaches have to develop the, the players and frankly, for wide receiver, Connor Embry and switching from him to Chad O'Shea, we may see an uptick in development for guys like Worthy just because the coaching is dramatically improved.

That's to be determined .

He gets a lot of heat, I believe, for Lucas Nang and Wanye Morris.

I believe Lucas Nang was a worthy swing.

Honestly, the way I look at a 3rd-round tackle is almost the way you look at a 6th or 7th round running back.

If they're a tackle doesn't make it into the 3rd or 4th round because they don't have some warts, right?

If, if, if you are a surefire starter at tackle, you are going in the 1st round or anything close to that, you are going in the 1st round.

In the NFL draft.

So, those guys really aren't supposed to be hits.

You would have liked one of them to work out.

Uh, maybe Wanye Morris still is a salvageable swing tackle.

I don't know about that.

But, but you have to think when they picked Kingsley Suamataa, because of the swiftness in which they moved him from tackle to guard, that that was the backup plan they always had in place for Kingsley, that they, they said, well, there are a couple of options that we can take this awesome.

Raw wad of clay and turn it into something, and I, I mean, really, he was born again hard last year.

I mean, he was horrific as a rookie.

He was pretty awesome last year, especially as a run blocker, and I think kind of the sky is the limit for him playing next to Creed Humphrey and Josh Simmons there.

Pretty nice position to be in in life.

Next up, we have defensive line, which is Tricky because on one hand, no massive hits at this position, either edge or defensive tackle, but Picking these guys outside of the top 25, even a guy that was picked at 28 like George Carloftis, that's not supposed to be a surefire hit, and I think it was a medium-sized hit, a good pick, a guy that's gonna be around maybe for 10 years in Kansas City, uh, But if they're picking inside the top 10, that really has to be a guy who hopefully signs a 3rd contract, not even just a 2nd contract, but a 3rd contract similar to Chris Jones in Kansas City, a Chiefs lifer, and it's not like teams don't miss in the top 10 with defensive linemen, with edges and defensive tackles.

I can't go any higher than like a Nicole Hardman here.

I am really scared.

Maybe that's, maybe that's unfair, but I'm thinking about Breland Speaks right now and even, even Omar Norman Lott is an incomplete for me, but Ashton Glati, I had high hopes for.

I'm not giving up on him, but it's It's not looking super promising.

It's just, I, I don't have a ton of confidence.

It seems like you might be a little bit more, you might have a little bit more faith.

Yeah, so I'd probably put it like a 2.75, which means we'll have to round up to a 3 or like a 2.6, which is above, you know, 2.5.

So that means it's, it's a 3.

Yeah, I'm probably not a full 3, but I, I think we'll, I'll have to go to the Nicole Hardman or to the, uh, Car Loftus range because I think Carter Loftus was a hit.

I think Mike Danna as a fifth-rounder was a hit.

I think Ashton Gillati in the 3rd round replacing Mike Dana, we'll see, but I think it'll be a fine pick.

Omar Norman Ala, I still have very high hopes for, you know, my thoughts on him going into the draft, so I still believe in him.

I don't like though.

That it feels like I'm almost Grading who spags once.

Hm, cause like the Ucher trade, yeah, it made sense.

But if Spaggs doesn't play him, then, OK, so I don't think Veach always gets his guys.

I think Veach gets guys for Spags because Spags won't play the bendier dudes.

Hell, FAU in this matter and of snaps we'd ever see from him.

At times look good.

And by the way, I can't really hold the FAU pick against him because to be real, there's probably some uh Clark Hunt situation going on if Warren Casey were hoisting the trophy.

I know I said public uh publicly, you can trade back and trade out.

Yeah, come on, it ain't happening.

So, How much of that is really on Veach to begin with?

And I'm not trying to carry water.

I'm not saying he's done an exceptional job by any means.

I just think he's done an OK job.

So I'll go with 3 because I think Carlovus, Mike Danna, Omar Nomanla, we'll see on.

Gelati, I, I don't know.

It's not been a disaster, but it's, it's not been good.

On one hand, in Spaggs' defense, most of the top pass rushers in the NFL right now are power rushers.

You do have your occasional Nick Bonito sprinkled in.

Uh, so you have that.

On the other hand, If you forced him to Clockwork Orange style, watch the Seattle defensive line performance over and over and over again in the, in the Super Bowl, he would see that they have a bunch of different pitches.

It's not all one pitch, you have all these different body types.

It's almost like a basketball team, and he just kind of wants one sort of player on the edge, not very bendy, not very fast.

Wins with power, sturdy against the run, has inside versatility, and I, I think you gotta have some different looks there at, at edge, you really do.

So, hopefully, this is the time that Brett Peach can convince Steve Spagnolo to to do that where the left hand is finally talking to the right hand because it seems like they're not always on the same page about this position, but some of that also might just be that guys that have all the traits don't make it outside of the top 10 .

They just don't, sometimes, even if they don't have production.

At all.

They don't make it out of the first round because this is, these are traits positions and you're seeing that with a guy like Caleb Banks, who is really one of the traitsiest players we've seen since Jordan Davis at defensive tackle.

He keeps rising and I expect him to kind of tear up the combine and, and keep rising.

So, I, I can reluctantly give this a 3, a George Carloftis.

Let's hit linebacker and defensive backs really quickly.

On both these groups, I'm pretty damn high, really.

I mean, defensive backs for the Chiefs, I think you have to give them a 5.

I think you have to give them a Mahomes.

They, they the defensive backs are a 5.

They can pull a rabbit out of a hat and turn.

Day 3 picks in the starters at, at these two positions, unlike any other franchise in the NFL.

They have done a great job of keeping the salary cap numbers spent on this part of the defense super low while keeping the, the level of Play super high.

It's, it's honestly impressive and it's one reason why people are calling for trading Trent McDuffie.

Linebacker, I'm not quite as high on, but they've done a good job.

Leo Chanel, Nick Bolton, Willie Gay got on the field quite a bit.

I think it's probably a strong Car Loftus, but I could be persuaded to make it a weak Humphrey.

Yeah, you and I are on the same page here, man.

The linebacker group has been really solid.

Not necessarily exceptional, but really solid.

Even the free agency pickup of Drew Tranquil was, was really, really nice.

We'll see with Jeffrey Bassa.

We'll see with Cooper McDonald, who I actually thought Cooper looked pretty solid in the Leo role last year and the smattering of snaps after Leo was shut down.

What, what he, what he got.

I, yeah, I mean, then you have the Jack Conchrans, but let's be real, as a, what a UDFA being at least any sort of contributors solid.

Uh, yeah, I, I, I think it's probably a, a hard 3, soft 4.

They've never spent a first-round pick on this position either, not that that's super common, but you do find you're, you're like superstars at linebacker often in the first round.

Uh, so it's, it's a mixed bag with Veach.

Unfortunately, given their draft position, they, they probably will pick a premium position.

So, we could very well be looking at wide receiver or defensive line, and these are not positions we're super confident when it comes to Veach and the brain trust, but hopefully fingers crossed, some of that is because of a lack of proximity to the top 10.

And now that they're inside the top 10, they have better talent available to them, they will make better decisions.

Again, fingers crossed.

Next up is a little game that's near and dear to our hearts.

It's the return of the Casey stock market.

Greed For lack of a better word, is good.

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It's a woozy.

It's a fairy dust.

Tell me the difference between stupid and illegal, and I'll have my wife's brother arrested.

Let's hit these up rapid-fire.

First off, the Chiefs would be better off not using a top 10 pick on a receiver.

Pump.

We're dump.

Oh, great question.

off.

Oh man, this is hard.

While you're, while you're thinking I'm gonna jump in and I'm gonna and I'm gonna pump because I'm not as high on Carnell Tate as some other people.

I'm a little bit worried about.

Makai Lemon with the height and the physical attributes that he's gonna have to be Hines Ward to work out, that he's gonna have to be the, the player with the most dog in him in the entire NFL to work out.

I, I love Jordan Tyson, but you have the medical issue.

He's my wide receiver one in this class .

I'm just not sure any of those guys are true top 10 picks, and I really like the guys, I like the two guys out of India.

Indiana.

I like Elijah Surratt.

I like Omar Cooper Junior.

We have a lot of juniors in this league.

Uh, and I also like Chris Bell out of Louisville.

I think he is AJ Brown light.

I think he probably would have been a first-round pick if it wasn't for the ACL injury.

If the Chiefs can be patient with a player like that, and I think when you're Brett Veach and you have that level of job security, you can be patient.

You should be.

So, I like those guys that are going to be available in round 2.

The Chiefs might have to, they could probably get one of those guys at 40.

2 other pathways here, and I know one you're kind of high on, Michael Pittman Jr. another junior.

The Chiefs might have to trade for him.

I can't believe that he's a player that's going to get cut in this league.

He is so productive.

He is so durable.

There aren't very many big, uh, reliable possession receivers of his mold left.

I, I get, I guess why the Colts think that in their offense, Alec Pierce is more valuable because of his specialized field stretching.

Uh, he's an explosive play waiting to happen at a time when teams are not allowing that, and I, I guess they feel like between Josh Downs and Tyler Warren, maybe Michael Pittman is expendable, but if you can get him for a 3rd-rounder and redo his contract and get that cap number down, Man, and, and like I said on Twitter, this guy is not making TMZ headlines.

His hobbies are, are flying planes and farming.

Like he is as a reliable, I know you, you've talked to him at the combine and all that stuff, very reliable dude.

And then the third pathway would be someone like.

Jauan Jennings, 3rd in Jawan.

I don't like him as much as Pittman, but you're not giving up draft capital to bring him in and be a security blanket for Patrick Mahomes.

I'm just not sold on the big 3 wide receivers in this draft enough to use a top 10 pick with these other pathways available.

Yeah, slight pump.

I'm, I'm, I'm.

Um, I wouldn't be like pissed if they went wide receiver at 9, but I don't think I'd be thrilled.

I'd be whelmed.

I'd be whelmed.

Yeah, if you look at the, the recent history, I just don't see that strong of an argument that you're definitively going to get a better receiver at 10 than 40, and if you look at edge or defensive tackle, or even tackle, there's an indisputable argument for that.

So, if we're just trying to do game theory here and and mine surplus value, and I know You're all about the surplus value.

I think that's the way you have to strategize and, and I also know that Brett Veach does not like to go into the draft with gaping holes.

So I would imagine he will address wide receiver in some fashion in free agency.

Next up, Andy Reid will not stop his heavy reliance on RPOs.

Pump or dump.

Not stop, um, slight dump.

I think they'll, I think there'll be fewer because I think we saw fewer as the season progressed.

I, I do think we saw it slightly fewer.

So I, I don't think he's gonna completely go away from it.

I don't think it's gonna be completely different offense and scheme, but I, I, I think that he We'll have fewer traditional RPOs in the offense next year.

So slight dump.

Well , they have been at pretty much the top of the league and running these kind of plays for multiple seasons.

What gives me pause, a couple of things.

First off, we came in the last season and I said around the same time last year that the Chiefs had the 2nd lowest EPA on RPOs, only the Giants were worse.

And I just saw today that they had the 2nd lowest, uh, no, the lowest EPA on RPOs this year.

So, are they really learning the lesson?

And then I listened to Robert Mays on the Athletic Football Show interview Jesse Newell, and both of their intel pointed towards Andy Reid is Andy Reid, don't expect.

That Tiger has totally changed his stripes at this, at this point.

Uh , they believe in what they do.

They believe it's more personnel than scheme.

I, I kind of disagree.

I think it's both.

I think it's 50/50, but it seems like they're more like 80 personnel, 20 scheme.

I don't know the opposite.

I think it's more scheme than personnel.

Not with the only argument is running back, running back.

They just had so little talent at running back.

But this gives me pause, so I'm gonna be a slight pump.

I, I don't want to be the cynic here, but just to balance this out, I'm a little scared that this is just who Andy Reid is and maybe he finds a way to make RPO's work with the current defensive meta, I just haven't seen it yet.

It seems like it was working like gangbusters for them for a while and they've just been hesitant to go away from it because of what happened in between, say, 2018 and 2022, 2023, and they just have to wean themselves off it.

I don't know if they will.

This is the big question for Chiefs fans this week.

Ruben Bains' arm length truly doesn't matter, pump or dump?

Slight dump.

OK. Um, I don't care a ton.

But it matters to an extent.

Because Trent McDuffie, still a phenomenal cornerback, but we've seen a couple of times when it at least matters a little bit.

We, we, we saw the Dallas game where it mattered a little bit.

We saw against AJ Brown that one time.

Well, it mattered a little bit.

Mac Hollins, right?

Mac Hollins mattered a little bit.

Will, Will Campbell, for example, it mattered a little bit that he has short arms, right?

He's the most talented tackle coming in the class in the draft last year, but short arms, and we saw it at times last year play a factor.

Now there's conversation of is he really more of a guard, right?

I mean, I'm not saying don't draft Bain at 9.

I want the Chiefs to draft Bain at 9.

But I think you're lying if you're saying that it doesn't matter at all.

No, tape matters more and I'm traditionally a what do you do?

That matters more than anything else.

I think sometimes the combine's overrated, but I think it matters a little bit.

It, the question was, is doesn't matter at all .

It matters a little bit, but it's not.

In my opinion, a, a Deal breaker to not draft Bain at 9.

Oh, I'm a slight dump.

I go, I keep going back to watch this guy's film, and of course, I'm mainly watching highlights and he just got anvils for hands.

I don't see these long-armed tackles really getting leverage on him.

I, I think he knows how to combat that.

He has the power and the athleticism and the skill set, and he, he's just a ferocious player and the I think he would fit in an Arrowhead like a, like a glove and the the Batman Bane kind of promo reels on the on the Jumbotron would, would be elite.

They would be elite for sure.

Ah, yeah, I don't think it will, we know his arms are short.

That's the thing like it's already, it's already baked into the cake.

We've been talking about him like this for months and months and months.

It doesn't really change much unless they are a little longer than we thought.

Which if that happens, guys, if he comes in and his arms are 32 inches or 32.5 or whatever, a little bit longer than than expected and he's not the kind of like Dwight Freeney-esque outlier anymore, well, he's not going to make it to 9.

So you, you, you almost want his arms.

Yeah, really, that's kind of what we're, we're rooting for here.

We sound pretty aligned.

Let's finish up here with Travis Etienne.

He's a, I'm gonna say he's a match made in heaven for the Chiefs scheme, pump or dump.

Hm, current scheme, semi, yes.

So they try to go more, you know what, yes, I think either way, yes.

I think either way, I will say yes because he is a good pass catcher.

He is explosive.

I think he can go up the middle a little better than the Jaguars used him at.

Like, I know they had Tutan for that and they had Tank Bigsby for that, but I, I, I still like ETN a lot.

I, I think he's a very effective player, efficient player.

I, I think in, in, Even if they did more under center, even if they did less RPOs, I still think ETN would be a, a, a really good fit for this offense.

Yeah, watching him over the years on Sunday Ticket and whatnot and trying to follow him in fantasy, and just kind of keeping an eye on the Jaguars .

Before Liam Cohen, their running game left a lot to be desired.

Sometimes they would just run him into a brick wall.

Also that offensive line has improved.

It always hasn't been tremendous, but he is a better outside runner than an inside runner.

On outside runs last year, 5.4 yards per carry.

I kind of think his efficiency spikes the further he gets from the A gap is the way I I describe it.

I think he's perfect for uh spread, shotgun, zone, RPO like what the Chiefs do.

Now, if the Chiefs want to become a power duo team and just slam it into people's face.

You're better off going out and getting someone like Tyler Algier for, for a somewhat similar price range, but this just seems like a very price range.

Tyler is gonna make half of you're you're probably right.

You're probably right.

And, and I'm trying to think who would be arbitrage, Travis Etienne, probably Kenneth Gamewell.

Sure.

So, I, I do think Tyler Algier.

He was a 1000 yard running back before they picked Bijon.

He's graded out very highly.

He can do a lot of things.

I tend to think that we're underrating what his market will be in this kind of like pendulum swing back to defense and ball control.

He is the kind of guy that can really help teams in this, in this moment, but I do think ETN will get more money than than he will, uh, but I'm going to pump.

I, I, I just don't think Andy Reid again is going to totally all of a sudden become a smash mouth power running game guy.

That's just not really his DNA and with Patrick Mahomes under center, we don't really want it to be.

We do want more under center running.

But he's a pretty good fit.

I, I also think he's going to be cheaper.

Bruce Hall probably is not going to make it to market, but he's going to be cheaper than Kenneth Walker.

We can agree on that, right?

Correct.

So, I think this is a good fit.

Uh, now, he has had some health issues.

He had the foot issue that kind of, did that keep him out his entire, what would have been his rookie year?

I can't remember now.

I also think he's older, so yeah, he is older, he's like 27.

Which is getting up there and running back years.

Still think it's a good fit, would be totally fine with the Chiefs giving him.

I don't know 9, 10 million a year for 2 years, something like that sound like his market.

Probably 33 for 30 with 20 million guaranteed.

So that way it's basically a 2-year contract.

That's how all these are written.

Devonte Williams' son was it 2 for 36 or no, it's 2 for 24, whatever, whatever it was.

Javonte's signed for and it's basically just 2 years.

Yeah, I think it was 2 for 20 or 3 for 24, but it's 16 million guaranteed.

So it's just, yeah, it's a 2-year contract.

We write it as 3.

If he's exceptional, we can keep him that 3rd year, but they always walk.

It's like Jawan Taylor's contract.

4-year, 4-year deal.

Oh, yeah, but you're really it's only a 3-year deal.

Funny money on the back end, that's kind of the, the common thing we are seeing in these contracts.

It allows the player and the agent to kind of puff their chest on social media and it keeps the team happy as well.

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