The SEC joins the Big Ten & BANS NFL players from returning to college football: Next steps for LSU

After the Big Ten set up a rule to ban NFL players a return to college football, the SEC and Greg Sankey joined in and did the exact same thing. Now, with LSU working to get former NFL players on its roster, what's next for Lane Kiffin and the Bayou Bengals? Watch here as Andy & Ari breakdown this bizarre story in college football.0:00 On Today's Episode1:08 Presenting Sponsor3:30 Intro: SEC joins in5:04 Are the rules enforceable?8:57 Players worth it?15:25 The difference in this case21:58 Rhoback24:14 Week 0 Picks: UNLV vs Memphis31:15 Previewing Brooks Austin31:53 Brooks Austin Join35:55 Arch Manning, Texas48:17 Bryce Underwood, Michigan57:52 Keelon Russell, Alabama1:10:20 Closing out - new schedule1:13:25 Thanks for watching!After the SEC news, Andy & Ari dive into one of the more interesting matchups in the week zero slate: Memphis at UNLV. As these two programs both are vying for the group of 6 playoff spot, this game could have some big CFP implications towards the end of the year.Next up, Brooks Austin from the Film Guy Network joins the fellas to analyze some of the more prolific quarterbacks in the country: Arch Manning, Bryce Underwood, and Keelon Russell. Are these QBs set to have a big year ahead? Brooks explains why.Thanks for watching! Dear Andy & Ari returns TOMORROW!Our show is presented by Polymarket!New User Offer: Deposit $10, get $20 upon sign uphttps://app.polymarket.us/S8ac/ON3Trade on College Football games every week on Polymarket. Download the Polymarket App with code ON3 for a $20 bonus upon sign up.18+ only. Restrictions and eligibility requirement apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Trading is risky. 100% loss can occur.We are also sponsored by Rhoback! Use the code "ANDYARI20 " on Rhoback.com for 20% off for all new customers through the end of this week. Rhoback.com - 20% off all Performance Polos, Shorts and more with code: ANDYARI20Join On3 today! https://www.on3.com/joinSubscribe to On3! ⬇️ youtube.com/on3sports/?sub_confirmati...Welcome to On3 | The best of college football and recruiting https://www.on3.com/Listen to Andy & Ari On3 on podcast!Spotify 🎧: https://open.spotify.com/show/5AhQ4d2m5TQu5Q2vkwtxjt?si=d9016221aa2a4427Apple 🍎: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/andy-staples-on3/id1695325427Follow Andy & Ari On3 on X! https://x.com/AndyAriOn3 Follow Andy Staples on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Andy_StaplesFollow Andy Staples on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andy_staplesFollow Ari Wasserman on Twitter: https://x.com/AriWassermanFollow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/on3sportsFollow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/on3/Like/Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/On3Sports/Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River BaileyInterested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com

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On today's Andy and Ariane three presented by a polymarket.

The rules have come rolling in from leagues banning former pro players from coming back to college.

We talked about the big 10 being about to do it on yesterday show.

They did it.

They issued some penalties as well.

The SEC later Tuesday night added their own rule and they have clarified what some penalties would be and they are quite draconian if you want to break them.

So we will find out if LSU is going to go through with its plan to bring some guys in who might have been in infiltrating camps last weekend.

It will get very interesting.

Plus we pick the UNLV Memphis game.

It's a crazy couple of quarterback battles in that one.

Also our friend Brooks Austin new partner add on three the film guy network breaks down three quarterbacks for us archmaning from Texas.

Bryce underwood from Michigan, Keel and Russell from Alabama.

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Ari, we talked about maybe some conferences making some rules yesterday that would ban players who've been in NFL training camps from coming and playing college football this year.

That has happened.

The big 10 did it shortly after our show dropped yesterday.

They will suspend the coach for half a season.

If you do it, if you if you play one in a game and then also they could issue some fines.

Meanwhile, the SEC.

They came out with their rule last night.

They said Greg Sankie would have wide latitude to punish a team that puts on its roster, someone who appeared on an NFL roster and NBA roster or a WNBA roster.

We get more clarity on that on Wednesday afternoon.

We'll now examine from on three reporting that if someone violates the SEC's professional sports rule, there will be a 50% of the season suspension for the head coach.

So that would be six games in football and I guess about 15 or 16 games in basketball.

50% of that sports annual operating budget as a fine and your SEC voting privileges or business matters revoke.

Essentially, you can't vote for any new rules, can't vote for anything.

The league's doing that is a lot.

Andy, yeah, sorry.

Are they actually enforceable?

I know that you were all wound up.

Great question.

You were all wound up about like, right when they announced that the SEC initially announced that they were having these rules.

And your first reaction rightfully so was got to see what are the penalties.

Yeah.

Well, you've got the penalties.

So now what's next?

Because I think that like everybody is strong.

Like the thing that's so confusing about this.

Can I just be honest with you?

Sure.

And it's something that even got me off kilter a little bit.

Is that the players who are in question here, although good, yeah, possibly people that could help a team in some way tangentially aren't main characters.

They aren't guys that are going to come in and be the face of your team.

They're not guys that are going to come in and be probably the difference in whether you make the playoff or not.

And it seems like a hell of a lot of trouble to go through.

Both for them, though I understand why they would go through it more than I understand why Lane Kiffin or anybody else on this side of the coin would go for it.

Why people are going through such hell.

So many steps so close to the season to try to get these guys when they're not difference makers.

Like that.

It gets weird.

Remember, there were no penalties as of yesterday.

And now there are.

But I still even before there were penalties, just like, why are we going through this?

We're not putting in no penalties.

Yeah.

I mean, like, yeah, I want to know why the penalties are so draconian.

Why they make them sound so serious.

I mean, think about the dollar figure there.

Half of your operating budget for your sport.

So I looked up LSU's most recent financial disclosure to the Department of Education.

It was from the 2024-25 school year.

So this number is going to be low because it doesn't include any revshare.

It was $50 million in operating expenses for the football team.

So that number is significantly higher now.

So at the minimum, you're talking about $25 million fine.

You're talking about losing Lane Kiffin your biggest investment for six games.

If we're using LSU's example here since there were the ones that were going to take the players.

Ari, I don't know if the rules would hold up in court.

But are you going to chance it for two guys who are depth and not main characters?

No.

That's the point.

Yeah.

That's why.

That's why you now, I suspect the players will sue.

I suspect the players will challenge this.

And they might even win.

Yeah.

I mean, just because these rules were put in place doesn't mean that these guys aren't playing for LSU this year.

Yeah.

Right.

The big 10 rule almost completely mirrors the NCAA's Ghost Transfer Rule, which is that the Ghost Transfer is when you just withdraw from university and enroll it another without entering the transfer portal.

That rule was was enjoined in the temporary training order in the Louisiana case that was going to allow these guys to play.

So because if you sue the SEC, which I assume is the next step and the lawyer talked to Ross Dellinger at Yahoo about it and said they're going to basically try to paint the SEC and big 10 as colluding with the NCAA and tell the judge, Hey, look, you've already said the NCAA can't do this.

So how about you say the SEC can't do this?

I wouldn't be shocked if they do that.

If they try that.

And I have no idea what the judge would say.

But I also wouldn't be shocked if they were a correct reason or exactly.

So we'll keep you posted on whether this actually goes through.

But before the show, you wanted to ask me a question.

Yeah.

And I think I had an answer, but I think it might have just changed in real time.

Okay.

Okay.

Because go ahead.

Go ahead.

Let's say these penalties do hold up in court.

Let's say it or actually better, better question.

We don't know if these penalties are going to hold up in court because LSU is not going to try this because these players aren't worth it.

So LSU is not even going to try it.

They're going to be like, guys, go send somewhere else.

Like we're done here.

So if you are one of these schools, is there or has there ever been a player in college football history who would be worth trying this for?

So my initial reaction was yes, Cam Newton.

But then you were talking about the financial penalty and the funny curious thing that we have to our disposal now that we might not have had when Cam Newton was playing is how much are these players worth exactly?

And it's not just losing Lane Kiffin for six games or whoever the coach may be, you're also talking about a fine that might be north of $30 million with the updated numbers.

Nobody in college football to my understanding is making $30 million.

So I guess the question has just the now evolved to is Cam Newton worth $30 million.

You know my answer is on that?

Is it yes?

2010 Cam Newton.

Hell yes.

Like we're going to send G. Chisic down for six games.

We're like Gus coach team and we're going to go win a national title.

I absolutely do this.

Yeah.

So I and now here's another secondary question as we're riffing.

How much money do you think a program would pay in totality?

If you could guarantee them the championship.

Do you think that somebody would pay $150 million for their roster to guarantee the championship?

Yes.

I was going to say 150.

I'd say yes to as well.

Yeah.

Because you're already paying 50 for the chance to in some cases.

60.

Yeah.

So I guess three X in it for the guarantee.

But you would have to pay that much money if you would pay Cam Newton that much money.

So I mean, I guess.

I don't even have to for Cam Newton in 2010.

And by the way, you know the rumor because nothing was ever proven was that it was 180 grand.

And biggest bargain in sports history of true.

Especially knowing what we know now.

Right.

Right.

But 180 grand is what you're getting at the best players are getting at that lower level program.

That's going to bring you a backup corner in the SEC.

Yeah.

Of course, inflation has happened in the time sense.

So maybe there's a, you know, another number there that we can better compare it to.

But it is interesting because the entire conversation would be in my opinion, even more interesting if the player was Cam Newton.

And I'm trying to come with come up with examples of the reason.

But the reason they did this is because the player isn't Cam Newton.

Yeah.

Because they know or at least they suspect that no school and I will keep picking on LSU.

But let's let's say it was Kentucky or let's say it was Missouri or Tennessee and any of the other ones, they know that no school is not going to do this for a player like the ones we're talking about.

The ones who are not going to make NFL rosters.

No school will try it and risk it.

It's not worth the risk.

So now if the players sue and a judge says the SEC rule is unenforceable or the or a judge enjoys the SEC rule, then maybe try it.

But guess what?

If that happens, the SEC is not only going to appeal in the state court, they're probably going to file a federal lawsuit of their own to test their rule to see it to see if it can hold up.

Yeah.

So it's not worth the juice is not worth the squeeze here.

And we also need to do that on purpose collectively.

Because like I, you know, I do think that what's interesting about this is like the notion from a lot of people that if this were to happen, that it would be some sort of a front to the, you know, sanctity or the longevity of college football, which I kind of fundamentally disagree with.

Well, okay.

These players know, but the thing is if you let these players do it, and you set the precedent, what happens if it's somebody who is a bad-ass college player who maybe their game does not fit in the NFL as well.

So they would, they would make an NFL roster, but they wouldn't make that kind of money.

Who are we thinking?

Who is that player?

Is that like, it's absolutely right?

It's Diego Pavia.

Diego Pavia.

It's Diego Pavia.

Diego Pavia is worth right now.

Diego Pavia is worth five or six million dollars to any any college football program.

If you could, if you could start him right now.

Mm-hmm.

So yeah, that's what they're trying to avoid.

So you want to slam the door shut even if you feel like the players who are filing this specific grievance might have a case.

You just don't want anybody to get through because you want to set the verdict to them because they were screwed by the NCAA.

Yes.

They know in last November, they could maybe get another year.

They never would have entered the draft in the first place.

Got it.

But you also want the door to get slammed in these faces even though you are sympathetic because you don't want there to be any sort of precedent to.

Right.

You don't want there to be a, yeah, it doesn't you don't want this street to flow both ways.

You don't.

Yeah.

Well, the thing about it is like Lane Kiffin is certainly the villain here.

But he's not in the courtroom.

So we'll see what happens.

You've got to root for it.

Exactly.

It's not over yet.

Yeah.

It's not.

And I'm very curious to see because, you know, Andy, you and I were theorizing about this before this specific instance were five or five open the door for people to feel like they got screwed.

We did have conversations in the past about players who, you know, weren't going to make it in the NFL who would sue for further eligibility.

Like we knew that this day was coming and eventually they're going to have to win those lawsuits.

And I don't know how or when they're going to do it.

And maybe I actually think if you get into federal court antitrust law, which is where, you know, would supersede state courts.

And I think that the leagues have a pretty good chance.

Yeah.

The NCAA rule has a pretty good chance because the difference between this and the compensation stuff is the inconsumer doesn't really care about the compensation and they've proven that over and over again.

And you can just look, you can just ask people and you know, there are very differing opinions on that.

And there's a wide split.

There's no split of opinion on this.

The public doesn't want guys from the NFL or the NBA coming back to college.

They don't let me take this a little bit off course here a little bit just for the sake of getting back on it in a very relevant way.

Yeah.

For the most part, Andy, do you feel like most fans are on board with the idea of collective bargaining agreements?

I don't know if most fans are.

I think if you explain all the alternatives, most fans would say that's the most logical in game.

Because in my head, and I'm no legal expert like you, but I'm trying my best.

You're not a legal expert.

I'm going to continue to say it, and you're always going to deny it, but it's not going to stop me from saying it.

You know, guys, Andy is basically a lawyer.

No, I'm not.

Andy.

No, I'm not going to lie.

I did possibly search on the internet to see if you could do like a afterwork law school program for when my kids go off to college and I have spare time again.

What I maybe try that?

Who knows?

What was the answer?

Can you?

You can.

They certainly exist.

I mean, they're not the highest rated law school in the world, but if I wanted to get a lot of agree, I could do it.

I am maybe imagining this.

I thought I read somewhere on the internet that there are certain states that say you don't have to pass the bar anymore in order to practice law.

Is that true?

Not the one that I live.

So I don't know.

Well, you would think it would be the one that where you live.

No, you don't have any rules here.

All right.

Let me get back on the point though.

If you are a person that thinks that everything in college football is broken, that everything in college football is nonsense, and that the NCAA can't even enforce the most simple, obvious rules, and that the only solution to the issue of fixing college football is to collectively bargain with the players.

Do you need the NCAA to be put in a position where it has no choice but to do so?

And I think that this position, which is not being able to rule players who have gone to the NFL from coming back to college to make a living playing football, I think that in this specific instance, and I'm not even talking about the guys that are trying to get back to LSU in this moment.

I'm talking about the Diego Pavia's of next year.

If we ever get to a point where in 2027 and 28 and 29, a player who is very good in college who flames out of the NFL has the opportunity based on the law and court proceedings to return to college, is that the point in which the NCAA has to stop pretending administrators have to stop pretending, and it forces them into the change that ultimately feels like we need to get to.

Like that.

I already had it that way.

I mean, Tennessee's athletic director Danny White's been banging this drum for over a year now.

But if they get thrown into a corner where they have the SEC presidents already had a presentation given to them during their spring meeting about what collective bargaining and college sports would look like.

So they're already talking about it.

They're already thinking about it.

So if we down that road.

So then let me offer this then Andy.

If you believe that we are eventually going to get to that point, I don't know what the time frame is on that, but that is the ultimate destination of college football.

Then for the next few years, you don't have to worry about the demise of it.

Like I don't need to hear people say that it's never.

I don't care about that.

People would say whatever they want.

Yeah.

Like I somebody called me a moron the other day because of I said when the game start, you're not going to be worried about any of this.

And he said, haven't you listened to all the people over the last few years saying that this is going to ruin the sport?

And I said, it is listen to what people say, smart people pay attention to what they do.

What have people done?

Watched college football and bought tickets to college football games in greater and greater numbers.

But if there are a lot of people out there, it's not ruining the game to them because they're still devoting their time and money to it.

Andy, there are a large segment of fans who listen to our show and who don't listen to our show who fear the demise of the sport.

And all I'm saying is whether or not you and me believe that as I've never bought into the notion that it's going to go away, there's too much money and interest in it for that to happen.

But if you are one of those people who fears that or that the sanctity of the game is being challenged with players coming back and it's damaged irreparably.

And all these different things that you will read on Twitter.

If collective bargaining is at the end of the road, I'm just saying if you are one of those people, you can go to bed and rest well tonight because there will be a time where we get back to places where rules and reason are enforceable.

It's just not going to happen until we get to that point.

But if that's the ultimate destination, then there's nothing who cares about what happens in the courtroom this week.

Well, they're not going to ever allow the sport to affect things.

Yeah, it's still going to affect things immediately.

Again, like I said, if these players sue and they get the TRO they want or they get the injunction they want, I think I think the SEC would then strike back with its own lawsuit.

I just find it hard to believe we're ever going to live in a college football world for the long term where NFL players can come back at their own.

I don't think we are because I can guarantee you if they do go to the collective bargaining route, that'll be that's a good, non-negotiable.

Right.

And it'll be fine.

Right.

It's going to be fine.

That's all I'm saying.

Because it is game week.

Andy, and this might make good for a transition for our next thing really real quick, but it is game week.

And I'm just hoping that while things like this are happening, we can transition into the football aspect of this and like get out of our offseason.

The world is ending.

College football is going to be broken forever mentality.

I guarantee we're going to have games to talk about on Saturday.

And that's it.

And way more games the following Saturday.

That's it.

We use this and people use the sport as being ruined.

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Let's pick a game.

We're talking football.

There are games this week.

We have to talk about this.

And this one, one, it's two group of five programs that have been good of late.

So that's fun.

But what makes this more fun?

Memphis at UNLV is the quarterback competitions for both.

Don't appear to be decided yet.

The two coaches have not named a starter.

And we might see two quarterbacks playing for each team not at the same time, but who knows?

But Dan Ballon at UNLV trying to decide between Jackson Arnold, formerly of Oklahoma and Auburn and Alex Orgie, formerly of Michigan.

That's the quarterback, Conundrum at UNLV.

At Memphis, where Charles Huff is taking over, Charles Huff, by the way, 13, three years, wins the league at Marshall, takes the Southern Miss job, makes them better, better immediately.

Now he's at Memphis replacing Ryan Silverfield.

His quarterback competition, Air Nolan, who once signed with Ohio State and then transferred to South Carolina.

Not the favorite though.

The favorite West Florida transfer Marcus Stokes.

Ari, I don't know what the hell is going to happen in this game.

Andy, I don't know what the hell's going on in the game.

You think about like entertaining quarterback rooms.

Is this like the most entertaining quarterback room matchup in college football this week?

Like, I'm just sick of like collective rooms.

We just don't know what the hell we don't know what's going to happen.

So, UNLV is a four and a half point favorite on polymarket.

And I wish I could break down that line, but I think we probably if we had both coaches on and gave them true serum, they'd be like, we don't know.

We have no idea.

This is me saying, I don't know.

What I do know is that both of these teams have been circulating in potential G five CFP contention circle.

We've both said group of five.

It is group of six now because the pack 12 is back as a as a living in six now.

I can't keep up with this man.

I got neither of these teams were in the pack 12.

The UNLV is still in the mountain west and Memphis is still in the American group of six.

Yeah, we got to say group of six.

We just got to add that add that extra league.

Go up to six and powerful.

But yes, Memphis is a team that because of Charles Huff's history and his ability to turn a program around very quickly.

He's really good coach.

Yeah.

It was also good under Ryan Silverfield.

It wasn't like that.

It was like Memphis was bad.

Memphis didn't need a lot of work.

Then UNLV, Dan Mullen has done a really good job since taking over for Barry Odom.

Barry Odom had it in a good place.

Dan Mullen put it in an even better place.

They played for the mountain west championship last year.

This could be teams that might be in the mix for a playoff birthday in the season on Fox.

This is going to be so much fun.

We're being honest with the people here.

We could pretend to give you expert analysis on this game.

But again, I'm not sure the team's own coaches could give you expert analysis on this game right now.

Yeah.

Well, expert analysis here is just all four of the quarterbacks that are in competition have spent their time in the limelight for one reason or another.

Sometimes it was good.

Sometimes it was bad, but they're all lasting names.

Well, we could just we don't dance around.

Marcus Stokes was committed to Florida at one point in high school.

He was then found to be on video saying the N word while reciting a rap lyric and had his offer pulled and wound up at Division 2S floor.

So that's what happened.

If you're wondering how that, because if you're googling that name, that's that's what's going to come up.

And then Jackson Arnold.

Before that happened.

We talked about him a lot in this show.

Marcus Stokes was a I believe high level four star prospect.

So it's not like he couldn't play.

And like if you're trying to figure out how does former five star Aaron Oland lose a job to Marcus Stokes just taken to account that his path to Memphis was in large part impacted by what Andy said.

So we'll see what happens.

But I'm going to watch it.

It's the latest game on Saturday night, right?

We got a is that the late game kickoff?

Stanford wire playing too.

I think Stanford wire actually funny enough kicks off before them.

Oh does it.

Okay.

Yeah.

I think Stanford wire was highly entertaining last year.

So that's another one I want to see.

But this this one is the one I think could be the one we went up talking about at the end of the night.

Like wow, that was nuts.

Yeah.

Also, both coaches could be powerful candidates in the near future.

So Stimman was good at Florida.

Yeah.

He got fired over the, you know, one the recruiting stuff and but the recruiting world changed.

The whole world changed right after that happened.

So I do wonder if in this environment it works differently for him now.

That's not very interesting.

Working his way there.

Yeah.

So everyone Charles Huff has gone.

They've gotten better.

I mean, that's pretty good indication that he might be a candidate and both of these teams have been the more in the group of more interesting G six teams the last few years because you did it.

I did.

I know I'm a fast learner, believe it or not.

Both of these teams have been in the playoffs on the last few years.

They've played in instrumental games in October, November that we're helping decide which G 16 got into the playoffs.

So it is certainly an interesting opening day matchup.

I love that it's in the city.

I'm going to take you in LV.

Fine, I'll take Memphis.

Because I again, don't know, but you're going to give me four and a half points.

I'll take Memphis.

Yeah.

Are these going to go on our permanent record?

Yes, they are.

Okay.

Well, I'm happy that yeah.

This is this is how we get to week one and we're doing 10 of these next week.

It's equally a mystery.

I mean, there's some teams that we know because they brought back a lot.

But most teams haven't.

Most teams are going to look completely different.

This is going to be the early season going to be like this.

You just have to accept it.

Yeah.

And I don't know.

I'm am I'm excited to watch this.

Obviously we're all excited to watch this.

For Bella check Mania, you know, that's going to be the star of the show on Saturday.

But Breaks like us.

It goes like you.

We're all going to be watching this together on Saturday night.

I can't wait.

We absolutely are.

All right, let's shift to quarterbacks who we know of one the job.

Our friend Brooks Austin is going to join us.

We've had on three have established a partnership with Brooks and his channel to film guy network.

If you haven't been watching Brooks, he is one of the best at breaking down game film in the world.

He's so much fun.

You're going to enjoy it.

If you haven't already subscribed to the film guy network, do it now because it's going to be a lot of fun.

But we are going to talk to Brooks about three different quarterbacks.

We're going to talk to him about archmaning about Bryce Underwood and about Keel and Russell.

Here is Brooks Austin.

Order to be joined by our newest partner here at on three.

The film guy Brooks Austin.

If you're not subscribed to his channel, the film guy network, what are you even doing?

Do you even like college football?

What's up, Brooks?

Nothing much, boys.

Glad to be here with you.

Yeah.

God be a little ball curious to enjoy what we do over there on the film guy network.

Glad to be here with you guys.

The first channel on on three to have me except for JD Bacchill.

JD Bacchill had me on before I was even a teammate.

So shout out to JD.

He's a day one over there, but glad to be here at Brooks.

We like to wait until teaser crossed and eyes are dotted here at the show.

Brooks, but you and I have been on a show together on the on three network when Crane was on debating.

I want to tell you that we're pitted against one another.

Hey, SEC hack and Big 10 hack.

Let's go at it.

Let's see what we can do here.

I wanted to say that it's going to be a pleasure to have you on without having to be adversarial.

So I'm very curious about some of the things that you have to say.

And frankly speaking, I don't know.

I think I'm Andy will tell you this.

You know, there are two ways of knowing ball.

There's like knowing ball, the feelings version and there's knowing ball, the the X is an O's version.

And I'm going to yield to you because you know the X is an O's better than I will ever know.

There's not actually a knowing ball feelings version.

It just does make for good shows.

So knowing ball feelings version.

Let's dive into that real quick.

I understand how the playoff mechanisms work.

That's the feelings version.

I understand what makes people upset and what to talk about on shows and what to write about.

I understand how quarterback battles work.

Like all the things that aren't just what does cover two look like.

What's a rat defender?

Are you?

That's what my wife would call me every time I eat the last Oreo.

You know what I think?

Here's my number one thing.

And Brooks, you tell me if I'm nuts.

I think that my actual X's an O's ball knowledge is probably in line with the super fan.

No, I don't know the average fan.

The average college football fan and I feel like the people who watch your show are smarter than me when it comes to that stuff.

And I'm okay.

I think Lee Korsow said this best, right?

It's entertainment, baby.

Like that is what it is.

And I think a lot of people that try to do what it is that we do from a film analysis standpoint, it's all way over the heads of the audience.

It's hard.

Yeah.

I'm not one of these people that claims to know football more than the next guy.

I think what we do is educate football the best.

I think we educate football at the highest rate on the internet because that's not what we're trying to do.

I'm not trying to have someone leave my film study go, oh my god.

That guy's the smartest football person I've ever met or ever watched.

No, that's not the point.

The point is to educate, right?

We always say on our network, the goal and the bar that we're trying to meet every time is try to take someone that knows football at a calculus level, right?

Like a football coach and entertain that guy and then take someone that knows football at a kindergarten level and educate that person.

We're trying to meet them in the middle.

I'm not trying to talk over the head of the audience too often.

I think at times when you do that, you can lose them and their eyes will glaze over.

Just trying to be a good educator.

That's what we're trying to do on our network.

I think I'm at the eighth grade level.

Yeah, at the end of the day, this is entertainment.

That's what we're trying to do.

We're trying to entertain audiences.

So whether you are a ball-nower or whether you are a college football-nower, which is what you are, Ari, at the end of the day, you have to be entertaining and that's the bottom line.

So you guys do that at a really high rate and we do the entertainment stuff at a high rate.

Just do it a little bit differently.

That's all.

Well, what I love about yours, Brooks, is your film breakdowns very much explain the why.

We can start with an archmaning when you did recently because I think if you watch that, you will understand one why arch maybe didn't live up to all that hype that he had going into the last season, but two, why it's possible for him to be considerably better this year, depending on some things because you pointed out a lot of stuff at arch, but I thought the more important takeaway from that for me was you were pointing out a lot of stuff about Texas's offensive lineplay and you were breaking down the bowl game.

So this was the last game of the season.

And Texas's offensive lineman are making communication mistakes that you shouldn't even be making week two in the last game of the season.

And arch has clearly had been dealing with that all season.

Yeah, we called him a pin cushion late towards the end of the year last year.

I mean, the guy was just getting lit up left and right.

And look, I do think some of that was on him to an extent because I'm a firm believer that the more and more we play the quarterback position, the more we should be responsible for our own protection, right, getting my identifications correct, making sure our offensive lines on the same page.

Some of that's on the quarterback, but young quarterbacks, we don't want to give them all of that because there's a lot of other stuff that they're trying to pay attention to, different some coverages, pre snap and post snap alignments, you know, progressions that we have to work through or in taking a lot of information.

So whatever we can take off their plate, we should do, but you're right, Andy, like there were basic things that they were messing up at a really high rate last year at Texas.

And it ultimately led to the detriment of their offensive execution rates, just basic stuff like blocking power pass incorrectly, right?

Like we got our eyes in the wrong gap.

That's not okay.

It's one thing to get beat as an offensive alignment.

It's a whole other thing to beat ourselves.

And I felt for the last couple of years at Texas, man, there's been a consistent rate of we're just not doing the right thing.

It's not that we don't have great football players.

It's not that we don't have, you know, elite first round tackles like Goosby over there left tackle.

And then you turn the tape on it.

It's like, well, yeah, no, you haven't given up a sack technically by PFF standards, but your eyes were in the wrong gap right here.

And it created a quarterback pressure.

And now all of a sudden, the quarterbacks running around trying to make a play.

And I would, I left with a tremendous amount of respect for Arches toughness.

His willingness to stand in there and continue to deliver strikes.

I think Steve Sarkeeson said it best.

He said at some point last year, it was just like, effort.

I'm just going to go out here and play well, he had no choice.

Yeah, no choice but to say effort.

Like I'm just going to go do this on my own because a lot of the times last year, he wasn't getting a lot of help, man.

So when you look at the way that Archmaning is being treated this year, a lot of hype again, you know, obviously from me, but a lot of people think that he's going to be having a really good season, especially considering the fact that pieces that they've installed around him.

Obviously, the offensive line is still a question mark and Trevor Gooseby and his health is up in the air, although it sounds like he won't be a prolonged injury.

When you see on tape, do you see somebody who more closely resembles a first round NFL draft pick or a top 10 pick, or do you see an average college quarterback?

Look, I think he has NFL ability within the pocket, right?

Like playing on the NFL level is a lot about being able to manipulate pockets and not bail out of pockets, right?

Like, hey, our left guard's getting beat like a steel drum.

Let's make one little minor movement stay within side of the pocket.

Keep our eyes down, feel it and let it rip.

He does that at a high level.

The problem with Arch's game right now for me is we still, we don't play a lot of touch.

We'll play a lot of what my dad would say, koof, we don't play with a lot of finesse.

Everything has to be ripped 110 miles an hour.

So all that like 15 and in work, he struggles with a lot.

There's not a lot of ability to take gas off of it just a tad bit.

He can make all the quarter quote NFL throws.

Well, he messes up a lot is like, hey, we're running mesh.

We got a shallow cross runner across our face.

Just just put it on a man.

Like, we don't have to rip this 100 mile an hour and then he throws it three feet behind Ryan Wingo or three feet in front of him and we just we missed the easy stuff.

He does the hard stuff really well.

He doesn't do the easy stuff really well right about now.

So if we can clean a lot of that up, I do think we'll increase our efficiency rates.

We'll increase our completion percentage.

Honestly, he's like the complete antithesis of Julian saying right about now.

We're Julian saying does all the easy stuff at the highest rates anybody has ever done it.

Right.

Some of that extra stuff if he can unlock that, that guy's got it in the bag.

Whereas arch has got to figure out like all this touch stuff, all this layering.

Which one do you think's harder Brooks?

I think it's like physically it's harder to get the top notch horsepower unlocked because we just may not ever have it.

Right.

Like we can put on weight, but we're six foot one.

We're 205, 210 pounds.

We might not ever be a hundred mile an hour thrower, right.

Whereas like I can teach the hundred mile an hour thrower.

Hopefully how to locate and hit his spots if I can cross over in the baseball a little bit.

So if I have the tools, it's easier to shape them down.

Whereas I might not be able to just give you the God's gift of the tool.

Does that make sense?

Well, and you pointed out something really interesting.

I thought in the breakdown of arch is that in the Texas offense and in the menu, they give him it's a lot of at the line of scrimmage stuff and then it is 25 yards down the field.

Like they give him, they give him the kit to use your analogy from earlier.

They give him the kindergarten and they give him calculus.

Yeah, there's not a lot of easy work in that offense.

It is very pro style.

And there's not a lot of hot built in.

Like everything is like Steve Sarkeensian screen game is great.

You'll see a lot of coordinators steal from him.

We call it trailer.

One of the screens that he has put in a lot of coordinators.

I've stole it from him.

But all that, although like real quarterback work that they ask that kid to do, it's all 15 to 30 yards down field.

It's all in that intermediate to deep range.

There's not a lot of easy work for him to get through.

So yeah, I would like to see a lot more of that.

They have one game last year.

I felt like they actually gave him quick immediate answers.

And that was against Oklahoma and the Red River rivalry.

And I think I don't have the stats right in front of me.

But I think he completed like 20 balls for 186 yards because a lot of that was like close to me.

It's like right now.

And it's like, Hey, just keep applying that because you guys can't protect a savior lives.

Like we all sold that last year.

And then you would turn games on later in the season.

And you're like, why are you asking the quarterback to hold the ball for three and a half seconds?

I always like to pause the film when the first receiver looks for the football because I know that's when he's coached.

Hey, this is the timing of the offense.

This is when you're supposed to get the ball.

And you'll see guys look for the ball and they're all like 17 yards down field.

And you're like, that requires time.

I gotta make much sense.

It's why I do think the Will Mush champ edition was so huge for this defense.

Like, yeah, they were good defensively last year.

They were all right.

But it was clear to me that Steve Sarkeesian felt he had to oversee some of their defensive stuff last year.

So, so wait a minute, you're the head coach, you're the offensive coordinator.

And you feel like you got to oversee the defense.

Oh, no wonder you weren't calling plays at the right that you normally do.

No normal.

No wonder you weren't shredding up defenses like you always do come third, fourth quarter.

You're absolutely dialed up and you've got explosives left and right.

And then I hear him talk about it was right before the cheese ball.

They announced that they're higher.

Well, Mush champ.

And the first thing he said was, I'm so glad to be able to hand over the defense and allow Will.

I think his words were to be the head coach of the defense.

That that set off alarms in my head while I was like, Oh, he felt like he had to oversee that defense last year.

He's wearing too many hats.

Now, wonder the hat that was offensive coordinator spot was a little bit too tight for him last year.

That was to me one of the worst jobs Steve Sarkeesian had done as an offensive coordinator.

And I think it was because he was a little bit overstretched with all the responsibilities over there.

Yeah, you know, I wrote a column a few weeks ago, feelings column Brooks.

About why people might doubt him despite the fact that Andy and I perceive that he's done a quite good job of building up a Texas program.

And a lot of it came down to offensive play calling and we were going to ask you about that.

You did a really good job of breaking it down.

But there aren't a lot of head coaches in college football who call offensive plays and win championships.

What's your perception of how well he has done traditionally as a play caller.

And when you watch the film, do you have confidence that he'll be able to do a really transcendent job again?

Or do you think it seems what you see that maybe he should consider giving that up?

Yes, I'm a big like head coach.

It shouldn't call plays guy like most people are like the history says you should be.

But I think it's important to categorize these things, right?

Like Brent Vittables calls his own plays on the defense side of football.

But you know what Brent Vittables doesn't do?

Brent Vittables doesn't handle roster management.

He doesn't handle any of that.

Jim Nagy's the GM.

He doesn't he hands that completely over to him.

He doesn't metal in the offense.

He's handled that completely over to his OC, right?

Just like Steve now is doing with the defense side of football.

Let Will handle all of that.

I don't have to worry about any of that.

He's got that.

He's got that under lock.

So it should free him up to be a much better offensive coordinator this year while maintaining the ability to be a head football coach.

I even see this in like hypo over there at Tennessee, right?

Like you're calling your own plays, but you're horrendous in two minutes.

Why?

Why?

You're awful in timeout management.

Why?

Because we're over there with the waffle house card figuring out what the defense is doing to us.

We're looking at the iPad.

We're we're doing all this other stuff where we should probably be managing the game.

Like that's what we should be doing where if you do too many things, if you stretch yourself to thin, you're going to create problem areas, right?

So it's good to hire these guys to alleviate a lot of this pressure.

I do think Steve will be much, much better and back to his normal self as a play caller when I go to study it.

I also do think like some of that stuff, the more cracks you get at Steve, the better it is to like obviously it's easier to defend him.

When I watch a man like the whole entire deep pass of game is based off play action.

Okay.

It's based off deep overs and posts.

Everything crosses the field.

Everything takes a while to deliver.

And if you can't run the football, you ain't going to be able to throw the football.

Like that's what happens to these play action based deep passing tactics.

So and you'll see that when they play teams like Georgia, when Georgia has boxed their running game, everything gets boxed.

So there's a lot more there than just like we got to call good plays.

We got to be able to run the football at a much higher rate.

We got to stop being 107th in penalties because we constantly get called for holding penalties, which I also think is due to the fact that their primary run scheme is wide zone.

And when we're trying to stretch defensive ends, we're going to get called for a lot of holds.

Like that is that is the history of football and Andy could tell you that.

It's a lot easier.

So the easier part of the offensive line is big for they're physically big for a wide zone team.

Like wide zone offensive line and look like I was offensive line or Missouri's yeah.

Yeah.

The guys that can get out and move a little bit.

But yeah, it's it is an interesting situation.

It also explains why they what you just said explains why they flip their running back room.

Get get that run game better.

It gets everything else better.

But okay, you made a lot of hay off the citrus bowl because I want to flip to another breakdown you did that where you really studied that game.

And it was the other side team on the other side Bryce on a wooden Michigan.

This is one of the more controversial figures of the Aussies.

And he said what he said about the Ohio State game that's feelings.

I would like to talk about how he plays on the field because what you have is a guy who's the number one overall recruit winds up starting as a true freshman.

Put under intense pressure.

Obviously there's more going on by the scenes than we knew.

And now he's got a new offensive coordinator new head coach.

And it feels like a new lease.

But based on what you saw from Bryce Underwood, what do you expect to see different and the same this year?

Well, I'll start with this like and you guys I know y'all hear a lot of things and you'll talk to a lot of people especially in the big 10 worlds.

But like when I talk to people from Michigan and the things that I hear about how assinine that football program was last year and how poorly ran it was some of the things I hear I'm like no way that can't be real that can't be that bad.

It's a power for football program.

No way that head coach was doing.

Yeah, it was it was it was absolutely wild.

It was hard for anybody, especially a 18 year old freshman to have success in what they were doing.

Like when Kyle Wittingham gets there and he's like I was stunned to find out the kid didn't even have a quarterbacks coach.

He didn't have anybody responsible for his day to day development and growth.

Oh, no wonder he developed bad habits.

No wonder he he was out there in the citrus boil in the in the cheese at bowl just like doing whatever he felt like he could to get away with things.

But I do think some of that is on Bryce, right?

Like some of the bad habits that we created we got away with our entire high school career because we were the best football player on the field and we could do whatever we wanted and we're immensely talented in the arm arm categories.

So we could just do whatever with our lower body mechanics.

We could do whatever with our reads.

We could do whatever with our eyes.

We could stare things down because that safety ain't getting over there because I'm about to rip the laces off this thing and fit this into a tighter window.

Well, we get to college.

We can't do that stuff.

So so when I watched that film from last year, right?

And I watched the early stuff against like central Michigan and Oklahoma.

I'm like, okay, this kid's going to be really, really good.

And then by the end of the year, all the bad habits became worse and we added new ones.

And you just can't win that way.

I don't care how talented you are.

You're not going to consistently have success if we're not doing the right things as a quarterback when it comes to our mechanics.

And it's simple, right?

It's tying our feet to our eyes, right?

And a geometry has a terrible habit of doing this as well.

There's older football players that can't quite get rid of it.

But I always explain it to people this way.

You don't have to know football at a high rate.

Everyone, everyone's tried to swing a golf club.

Go try to swing a golf club and move your feet completely differently every time you swing it.

Tell me if you have consistent results.

They will be heck no.

You will not.

You will spray the golf ball all over the place.

Same thing at quarterback.

If we don't have consistent mechanics in our lower body, we're going to spray the football all over the place.

And I saw that a lot within last year.

It got to a point where I'm watching that against Texas.

And I'm like, they just need to start from scratch.

They just need to start from ground zero.

And from what I hear from Michigan people, that's what they're going to do.

They're going to start from ground zero with this kid.

I've taken golf lessons before.

And literally the first step in golf lessons is where do you put your feet and how do you hold the club?

And I'm always marvel at how they're stepping quarterback lessons.

Yeah.

That's the point.

That's the point.

They're very similar.

It's why most quarterbacks are good golfers because it's a ground force thing.

All we're doing is from a like explosiveness and from an accuracy standpoint, it's tied to our lower body believe it or not.

Which is why I marvel at how that's possible at this level.

I get to a point.

So Brooks is not kidding about how immensely talented Bryce Underwood is.

There's a play in the bowl game.

And like I laughed out loud when you when you because I remember watching this play live when it happened.

Basically the protection breaks down completely.

He has no time to throw.

He throws completely off his back foot, but rips it into the corner of the end zone.

And it's a freaking touchdown.

Like if you're that talented and you can get away with stuff like that.

It makes sense why you might develop bad habits, especially if you're being poorly coached.

Yeah.

I mean, it's almost bad that you get away with it because you think you can continue to get away with it until it goes wrong.

And then you're like, Oh crap.

But I do think there is another like very similar to arch that there needs to be a development as a touch thrower as a layer of the football.

I always worry about quarterbacks when every ball is a one ball.

Right.

We separate the throws into three categories, right.

A one ball.

You can put it on a close line.

A two ball is like a little bit of layer.

It's got a little bit of arch.

And then that three balls, that moon ball, that Russell Wilson, it ought to scrape the sky.

Come back down on these deeper routes.

He's a great one ball thrower.

And everybody who's ever thrown a football is a pretty good three ball thrower.

The development and the growth and the the like rocket growth of a quarterback comes.

Well, we can actually throw those two balls when we can throw over underneath, you know, over underneath defenders and back underneath safeties and third level defenders.

That's when we become a leap thrower of the football.

I always get really, really worried when I watch a highlight tape or I watch a shorts and t-shirts thrower.

And every ball looks like Will Levis in that indoor facility that we see go viral every year.

And it's like every ball looks like he's throwing at 110 miles an hour.

Well, buddy, that might be the only ball he can throw.

And if that's the case, we're not going to live.

We're not going to live very long playing this position and we're not going to survive.

So I always worry about that when I see with quarterbacks.

Like, do we have touch?

Can we throw with a little bit of touch?

I don't know if he can right now.

And that's something he's going to have to figure out.

Who is going to improve more this year archmaning or Bryce Underwood?

Well, to me, like arch, arch doesn't have like it's the underneath stuff that we talked about, but like the stuff around arch has to get much better.

All right.

So there's not a ton of like honestly, there's not a ton of room for growth there that I see on film because I thought the dude was playing good football towards the end of the year last year, despite what the internet and box sports scouts might tell you about him.

So Bryce, to me, Bryce has all the room to grow because it was pretty bad from a quarterback playing standpoint last year.

I mean, I know the coordinating was bad, right?

But it's got to be a little bit of both where like if you watch that breakdown, like you guys have, and the audience, if they go watch that Bryce Underwood breakdown, what you will notice is about midway through the study.

You're like, oh my god, they're repeating concepts left and right.

They're repeating concepts over and over again.

It became a spamming four-verts type of offensive coordinating call.

And sometimes I wonder like, okay, OC obviously bad, right?

Coaching obviously bad.

But is that also a retention thing like where we're not able to give him the full slate of the offensive play call because he couldn't execute it at a high rate?

Do we have to give him the vanilla offense because all he can absorb is the vanilla offense?

Those are questions I don't know.

I don't know the answer to.

Maybe I could call around and get an answer to, but that's why I would say Bryce has far more room to grow so he probably will grow at a higher rate.

So if he does grow, I mean that's the thing because there is such immense talent underlying here.

If he does grow, what's the ceiling for Michigan this year?

Well, I mean, guys, they were they won nine football games last year with them.

The history, the college football history is most distracted.

He had football coach of all time.

Now, I think a lot of that was due to the fact that the schedule is relatively manageable last year this year, not so much.

This year the schedule is a little bit tougher.

So you might see better play from the quarterback position and better play from the offense as a whole.

Meanwhile, they might get the same output in terms of win-tools.

So I think those things could be a little bit misleading when you look at it at the end of the season.

You're just stacking wins this year, versus wins last year because I do think the schedule is a little bit tougher this year.

You guys got to throw up on the screen right there.

You play the big three.

You're one of the schools in the big 10 like Nebraska, like USC, that drew all three of them.

You got to play Indiana, Oregon, and Ohio State, good luck.

So at the end of the year, it might look like the same wins total with a different output at the quarterback position and more growth at that position.

So what does the ceiling look like?

Maybe you win every game except those big three football games, right?

And maybe you play those a lot tighter than you did a year previously, particularly that Ohio State matches.

So I think that's what I would look at this year as more, like, hey, is he actually doing the right things at the quarterback position or does he still look like a five-star high school talent trying to play college the way he played in high school?

Those were the things that I would be looking for.

One more that you just broke down and you had a limited sample size with Keel and Russell.

But I'm fascinated by what you saw because some of the little things, well, they're not little things, some of the fundamental things you noticed with him, specifically the release and how quick it is.

I just I'm drinking all the cool late at this point.

Like I asked Ari this question when he was named the starter.

I said, does this, does this make you want to have a Mulligan to re-rank Alabama?

And Ari's like, I don't know if it, it does for me.

And I'm just curious what you saw.

Obviously, small sample size when he played last year, you went back into his high school tape too.

But what stuck out to me is something you said about there's certain things with the QB that you noticed.

This is how they are.

This is how they're going to be despite the level.

And he seems to have some pretty good habits when it comes to how he is.

Yeah, and I even talked about it in that breakdown.

And I talked about last night on our show, is like, most five-star high school tape, like quarterback tape, you can throw it away.

Like most that stuff's not going to apply.

Most of those things that you're doing in high school, you're getting away with because you're an elite specimen.

Like you are the best talented athlete on the field.

Right?

Like there's a five-star quarterback that has lit up the circuit this off season that might may or may not be committed to a big 10 school.

Or I watch his tape and I'm like, man, I wish I get to see you play quarterback a little bit more.

Like you're running around.

And I don't think you're going to be running around when you get to college.

You're going to be asked to be a thrower.

And you're going to get asked to play the position.

Whereas like with Keelan, you turn on Duncanville high school football tape.

You're like, oh, he's that Duncanville.

He's got like 17 division one football players with him.

All these things are going to be perfect.

All these pockets are going to be clean.

No, they were not.

And you talked about a habit that he has.

A great habit.

He steps up.

When you watch him, when tackles are getting beat, when guards are getting beat, he doesn't have a propensity to bail out of pockets to start running around and just using his legs.

He has a propensity to step up in pockets, keep his eyes down, feel, and find pure progressive reads.

That's playing the quarterback position.

That's not just being a great thrower, which he is.

He plays the quarterback position at a high rate.

And look, this is something that Ryan Grubb and Keelan DeBourre, that is their skill set.

If they have a skill set better than anybody else in my opinion, it's identifying high school quarterbacks that are actually playing quarterback, not just running around winning.

All right, that's great.

That's great.

Jackson Arnold that you have five-star tape and you run around and you win.

That's great.

Brock Vandegrift that you run around and you win.

That's awesome.

I'd rather see you make somebody miss inside the pocket, keep our eyes down, feel, find a second, third, fourth, green, and then rip the football because that's what you're going have to do when you actually play Saturday football.

So if you ever wonder why some of these guys don't hit at a high rate when they get to college despite the fact that they got to eat traits, they can't see the field.

They literally cannot look through the defense and find the right answer.

This kid has shown good habits throughout high school when it's a time period where we can just win off traits and he wasn't doing that.

He was winning with his mind.

He was winning with his pocket throws.

And again, I think that's what Ryan Grubb and Keelan DeBourre do best.

If you go watch all of their high school takes, right, the guys that they take in the position, it is 15 minutes worth of tape of them throwing absolute dots from the pocket.

Not running around, making plays.

I'm talking about playing the position from within side the structure of the offense because that's what they have to do at Alabama.

They asked those quarterbacks to play it at a really, really high rate.

They're not RPO in their way down the field.

They're playing pure progressive football like Sunday quarterbacks are asked to do.

And this is something I got tipped off with watching their tape against, when they were at Washington, with Michael Pinnix.

And this while I was so high on him coming out of college, I'm like, whoa, whoa, this guy's playing the spot.

This guy is playing the position that are really, really high rate.

He's not just RPO and KonaVision football.

This guy is clicking through reads, tying his feet to his eyes, playing for within side the pocket, getting the ball out on time, throwing anticipatorially.

This dude's playing it at a high rate.

All their quarterbacks do all their quarterbacks do, which is why if you were to ask me, does it change my predictive outcome of Alabama football?

No, not really because I think Austin Mac was going to be that too.

This kid's just a little bit more of a playmaker.

So when things break down a little bit, he might be able to, as their quarterbacks coach said, make good shit happen.

He will do that at a high rate.

But his first thought on every single play is first read, second read, third read, where's my hot?

Then the exit strategy, which is my legs, right?

This is a four by one hundred meter runner in high school and want to stay championship like this dude can go, but it's the last ditched effort for exit strategies for him as a quarterback.

And that's the way you need to play it.

Brooks, the biggest question about Alabama last year or biggest shortcoming, I should say, is their inability to run the football.

How much of that was personnel based?

How much of that was scheme based?

And obviously going with Keylin's a big boost, but if they can't run the ball, they're probably going to have issues.

How confident are you that they're going to be able to figure out how to fix that?

Well, the thing that I love most about what Kaelin did this off season was he didn't wait around to curve the miss and make himself right, right?

Like he got rid of basically everybody in the room, whether it be NFL draft or synonym to Texas A&M, and he brought in a bunch of new bodies.

Okay, so we changed the personnel.

We also changed office line coach.

We fired off as a line coach brought in a clip.

So we changed everything about it.

We recognized the problem and we didn't wait around and go, Hey, let's just give it another year.

Nope.

And these three fixed right now, let's clean house.

And that's exactly what he did.

You talked about personnel.

I did think there was a disconnect between the types of football players that they had last year and the first year that he was there and the type of offense that they actually want to be, right?

And look, I've been known as like this Kaden Proctor, Hater or whatever, but let's just take him, for example, Kaden Proctor was a 385 pound left tackle.

Okay, their tackle at Washington, Troy Fontanoo, he was cortical and undersized offensive tackle at Washington, used his athleticism at a high rate because shocker, they were a wide zone counter base football team.

That requires athletes at the position.

I think that's what they want to be.

They want to be a more athletic offensive line.

They want to be a stretch football team.

They want to build their play action rollout game off of that.

And they couldn't do that because they had Kaden Proctor.

The only athlete they had up front last year was Parker Brailsford Shocker, a transfer from Washington, an undersized center.

That's what they want to be.

So when our when our personnel doesn't match our actual intentions from a schematical basis, we're going to have problems like we're going to we're going to have problems where our skill set does not match our identity what we want to be where this year, I think they're going to get back to this right.

They're going to get back to more athletic based linemen and have guys that can actually move and get after it.

So I do think they're going to match what they want to do at a little bit higher rate whether or not they actually get it executed as a whole another different discussion.

We talked about Texas offensive linemen having bad eyes last year.

Alabama might be a close second for worst.

Like Alabama couldn't do the basics last year.

They couldn't identify mics correctly.

They couldn't they didn't know who they were responsible for in past protection.

Andy will tell you this.

The number one way to get fired as an offensive coordinator or offensive line coach is to have run throughs have guys that are running through your offensive line being completely untouched.

And I would venture to say it's not a stat kept by pro football focus, but I would venture to say Alabama led the nation in run throughs last year.

Guys that are just getting the tie Simpson without even being touched and we can't have that man.

We cannot have that.

And I think they get that address.

We had Josh Quavis under the senior bowl and Josh was starting tight in front of him.

I was not trying to throw shade or anything.

He's just saying what happened.

And he said the communication was was awful.

It just it wasn't good.

They had to fix that if they were going to protect better.

And that's the truth.

And that's why you know you change the line coach.

You change the tight ends coach.

Perhaps the past pros better.

You mentioned the body types, the athleticism that they would prefer on their offensive line with these coaches.

I'm going to give everybody a name.

Brooks, I already know you already know this name.

Racing Delgady center from Cal Poly.

And people like Cal Poly, Alabama.

That's a go watch this guy gets Utah last year.

Go watch this guy against future NFL D lineman.

He's he's fun.

You're going to like him.

And he's to your point what they're looking for.

Yeah.

Six, three, three hundred pounds, colon quote, undersize, but the Duke have flak go at the offense line position.

So yeah, those are these types of offensive lineman.

They're not you know, not to crap on Caden anymore.

But the the guard that they have last year was three hundred and forty pounds.

It's like Nick.

Nick Sabin wanted a certain type of offensive lineman like yeah.

And and you look you watch Georgia.

They Kirby wants a certain type of offense that they have a they have a preference.

But if you build your scheme around that type of person, that's great.

But if you're trying to run a scheme that that person doesn't fit, everybody's going to look bad.

It's just the truth.

Yeah, your identity has to match an attainable talent.

Like it had they have to coincide, right?

Like not to I still this from Matt Campbell.

I thought like Matt Campbell is one of the best football coaches I've seen from a standpoint of oh, wait a minute.

So we're not going to be able to get twitched up offensive lineman.

We're only going to be able to recruit corn fed middle American folks.

So guess what?

We'll be 13 personnel football team.

Yeah.

We'll just line up and be big.

Oh wait.

So we're not going to be able to go down to southeastern areas of the country and recruit four and five star corners that could run for three.

Okay.

We'll run a three three five and we'll just be the biggest tallest, longest, slowest football team that there is.

But we're going to cloud windows by being big tall and long.

It's one of the questions I have about him going over to Penn State where it's like, okay, well now you will be able to recruit the DMV.

Now you will be able to recruit twitched up athletes.

Are you going to change how you play football based off the types of players that you're actually able to recruit?

I would imagine he will.

I would imagine, you know, they'll look a little bit different than they did at Iowa State from a schematic standpoint because they're able to actually recruit blue chip or caliber football players now.

Not players with certain deficiencies whether it be speed or whether it be size or whatever have you.

These things have to tie in one another.

They have to make sense.

And I felt for the last two years, especially the first year at Alabama, where it's like, you know, they've never recruited.

K-1 to born, Ryan Grubb have never recruited a quarterback like J. Lamira ever and they never will.

They will never recruit a runner first.

They will always recruit pure progressive passers guys that can sling it, right?

Like that's not what Milro is.

And I felt like they were extremely uncomfortable their first year as play callers out there at Alabama.

And they got much more comfortable last year when Tyson Simpson took over the helm, but they just didn't have the parts up front on offense aligned to match it.

So now we're in year three and now all these things are making a little bit more sense for our talent pools match in our intended scheme.

And you should get better results out of it.

Well, I cannot wait to see.

We got Alabama East Carolina week one.

They go to Kentucky week two.

That'll be a very interesting test for their Brooks.

This has been a lot of fun.

I cannot wait to have you back on once game start because we're going to have we fresh off your film breakdowns and I just want to make sure everybody understands.

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No doubt gentlemen.

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Take we need you to teach River how to be a crazy ball in public.

Yes.

He's a crazy ball.

Priably, we need to, like, we need to bring it out of him.

You know, I've been, and he know I've been texting him trying to add him on to be like more crazy and like more, you know, out there.

Come on, River.

I don't know if he has it in him soon, soon.

I'll have, I have more hope and fused in me after first few weeks and then you want to see phase on against Firm and I see how it is.

Yeah.

I just think that the biggest blunder in Andy and Ariane three history was not having Rivers meltdown recorded for our show when Nico entered the portal.

I rolled out of that as I go, he's in the portal.

You're just doing that.

But I don't think Rivers situation was, was typical because remember River works.

Yeah.

And on three with that, I get ready for work.

River, but River had inside information that the typical ball fan didn't have.

Because remember the typical ball fan was yelling at us and we're like Danny cannell yelling at us.

And I like I'm texting Danny cannell saying, Hey, you might want to take that tweet down because it's going to look pretty dumb in a couple hours.

And you know, it did.

So what a time.

What a time.

Well, I guess there's nothing better than pure real reaction to a heartbreaking loss or a big time when.

So we're we'll see tomorrow five bold predictions for me for the 2026 season.

Also, dear Andy, dear, Ari, Ari, I've already got one.

I know we're reading somebody's asked me to plan their wedding.

I would trust you with the food.

I don't know what else you would do.

Yeah, I don't know that I'd trust me with anything because you know my take about wedding food, right?

Like just get burgers and fries and chicken fingers and pizza by the slice and everyone's happier than with the stuffy like premiums.

It always comes down to mall food court food with Ari.

You know, you go to a wedding and you're sitting there and they they hate all those tins.

They pull it up and they give you your freaking.

Oh, yeah, I don't know what it is.

It's more expensive.

If you had a ninnin out food truck and a pizza by the slice guy, you know that that every wedding has the late night food.

You ever see people flock to the late night food at the end of the night when the chicken fingers and fries that they put out after dinner like four hours later.

That should be the main course.

Anyway, we'll get into that tomorrow.

Absolutely.

We'll also talk about football, too.

Yeah, five bolt predictions coming up.

Spoiler alert.

I was a that's 40% last year.

That's good.

Y'all think guess which two are right.

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