How did Simpson pick factor into Garrett trade?
Mike Florio and Chris Simms discuss Myles Garrett being a member of the Los Angeles Rams and question how the team's selection of quarterback Ty Simpson played a factor in the move for the star pass rusher.
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I think- Yeah at some level- Yeah the Garrett trade is a reaction to the criticism they've gotten for the Ty Simpson- Huh selection.
And more so, not the criticism, but the scoffing, the smirking.
Remember?
yeah.
John Lynch smirked.
"What was he smirking about?"
Sean McVay said.
I'd love to know, and I don't know that they would ever be candid about this.
Now, they say that they've been trying to get Myles Garrett since 2022, and that may be as simple as you call up the Browns and you ask about Myles Garrett and they hang up the phone.
But now the Browns finally listened.
I just wonder, do they part ways with Jared Verse if they aren't pissy about the way everyone reacted to Ty Simpson, specifically the Seahawks and the 49ers?
They had a parade in their minds as it relates to the decision of the Rams to not use the 13th overall pick, the same pick they used to get Aaron Donald in 2014, on someone who won't help the Rams right now.
We'll show you.
You guys gonna celebrate that?
We'll use next year's pick, F them picks, to get somebody who will help us right now.
I just thought of that yesterday, trying to balance all this.
'Cause I think there is a way to, to say both things can be true.
We need to develop I, I don't believe they needed- Yeah, right I mean, setting aside whether they needed to use a first-round pick on a quarterback when you have Sean McVay and they're gonna flock to LA.
Any available quarterback is gonna want to go to LA when that spot's open.
But they felt compelled to build for the future a quarterback.
You can do that, build for the future at your most important position, while also loading up the cannon to go win right now.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you, you can.
But the, the, the question we'll have and what we'll see is if we get to that time and oh, now Ty Simpson's playing three years from now, maybe four, and we go, "Wait, what's the team look like now?
They've traded away all these picks.
Is it gonna be You know, is it gonna be set up for him?"
I don't know.
And, and, and, you know, you make up a, an interesting point, maybe that added fuel to the fire with some of the backlash with that pick.
I, I, knowing that crew out there, I doubt it.
I bet you there was conversations a little before the draft even happened about this, you know, possible scenario and where it could go.
So I would think this is on the radar.
But damn, I mean, the Rams and what they got.
We know we have no questions about the Rams on the offensive side of the ball.
There's nothing to question.
The Rams are almost perfect on that side.
You know, maybe they could add some more wide receiver depth or something like that.
But on the defensive side, we talked about it a lot at the end of the year last year, right?
They were, they were falling apart.
They were, they were not the same.
I mean, it was a unit that, you know, had m- at a lot of times maybe had to rush five too much.
You're not gonna have to do that anymore with Myles Garrett.
Not more rushin' five.
They You always heard me making fun of them at the end of the year, right?
They can't play man to man.
They've addressed that with the two corners, of course, the Trent McDuffie, but the Jalen Watson signing from the Chiefs, too.
So now they're gonna have a totally different look and a different way they can play and approach situations.
And to me, that's another big advantage they're gonna have.
Because the first few weeks of the year, teams are gonna be like, "Wait, yeah, we watched film from last year."
But who the hell cares about last year?
They got some different guys now that allow them to play different defenses and different schemes, and you're gonna have to worry about that, let alone some of those players are freaking awesome and you're gonna have to worry about, you know, extra guys blocking Myles Garrett in, in scenarios like that.
But you do wonder how many quality years they're gonna get out- Yeah of Myles Garrett.
Mm-hmm.
And where they're gonna be when it's all said and done.
Because the downside of trading high draft picks is it complicates your effort to build a nucleus moving forward, and it puts more pressure on you to hit on the mid to late round picks- Totally from a drafting and developing standpoint.
And they've done it with guys like Puka Nacua, just to name one.
They've done it.
They had plenty of guys- Right later in the draft.
When they have the picks, they use the picks, they develop the picks.
So it allows them to say, "In lieu of using this high-level pick that may be more attractive to someone else than it is to us, we'll go get somebody who is proven and established."
That's been the whole mindset of the F them picks.
Yeah.
And you mentioned the possibility that they were thinking about this, talking about this, planning this before the draft.
It actually makes, in my mind, the Ty Simpson selection more understandable because if they're gonna do this deal, we're, we're not doing it till June.
Browns can't do it until June.
Yeah.
So it's not like we're gonna give up the 2026 first round pick, but we're not gonna have a first round pick in '27, second round pick in '28, third round pick in '29.
We better protect ourselves at the quarterback position if we decide there's someone we really like, if we really like Ty Simpson.
And we, we, we still don't know- Maybe how much- Yeah of the McVay routine, I know you've talked to him about it, our eyes and our ears tell us a story, how much of it was for the benefit of Matthew Stafford and- Right how much deep down, secretly, once you crack through the facade, is Sean McVay happy to have Ty Simpson there and confident he's gonna develop Ty Simpson into a future Hall of Famer?
We don't know the answer to that question, and we won't until it's time for Stafford to move on, and then the Rams can be candid about how they really feel about Ty Simpson.
Yeah.
No, you're, you're right.
And maybe, maybe there, that is the logic.
You're right.
It's a, it's a good thought by you.
A- and, and we know McVay's a quarterback whisperer.
This is gonna be interesting to see with McVay.
We haven't really seen him yet in his career draft and kind of develop a quarterback.
That's one of the things that we haven't never checked a box with.
All the great things he's done in his career, that's probably one thing there that you look at and go, "Huh, that's crazy.
This, all this time in the NFL, he hasn't really had to do that."
So we'll see where that goes.
But you said it right.
I mean, this is gonna put more pressure on those middle round picks.
But damn, I, they seem to thrive there.
I mean, they thrive.
I mean, let, let, let's look at, like, just look at it a little bit, like their defense, just 'cause I got their roster up.
First, they got Braden Fiske.
He was a second round pick from Florida State, okay?
They I'm just talking about people they've drafted.
Kobe Turner, third round, right?
Defensive tackle.
Byron Young, the other pass rusher that ma- you know, a young pass rusher who's a guy that can be close to double digit sacks.
He's a third round guy.
Then you get into guys like Cameron Kitchens, third round.
Quinton Lake, their other nickel, their nickelback in the secondary.
He's a sixth round pick.
You talked about Puka Nacua being a fifth rounder.
They got, you know, a slot receiver who's a sixth rec- sixth rounder in Whittington, right?
Right tackle who's a fifth rounder.
I mean, Kyren Williams, their star running back, a fifth rounder.
So that in itself is just incredible that they're that good in that part of the draft, and that, of course, is what allows them to have confidence that they can make these type of moves and go to the old Florio saying, "Hey, first round picks are great.
They're great assets and all that, but you don't ever know.
You don't ever know.
And it's, it's, it's, you know, a lot of money and a lot of pressure gets put on that first pick and how we, he does, we all get judged off of that, and you don't have to worry about that either."
So there's a, there's a lot of aspects to look at this, but the Rams, again, are just, you know, functioning at a level that I enjoy where they just go all in and have no fear.
